Mario Kart 8 already has the gravity mechanic. F-Zero is still special outside of that, but so is Diddy Kong. DKR added an adventure mode, different type of vehicles (sonic added that feature), and boss battles. 2 special mechanics that hasn't been done before in MK8 or Sonic. Sure Diddy is cute, but that is just an aesthetic complaint. There is more to it than just a generic adorable kart racer.  Who's to say Retro can't add more to this game and make it their own like DKC?

Bioshock had backtracking, granted it blocked you off in some areas once you progressed at around the middle or the end of the game. Batman, while it maybe third person, it is still a Metroidvania 3D game sort of like Prime with obvious difference in mechanics. Rayman is a triple A platformer which is why I compared it to DKC. 2D platformers are sadly a dying breed nowadays just like 3D platformers and Kart racers.

All in all, it is silly to say its a waste especially when the game doesn't even exist. It is like giving out a guilty verdict for a crime that hasn't even been committed. Hell, Diddy could even be a blessing in disguise like DKCTF was for most people. Sure, the Wii U might have alot of platformers or ''cute'' games, but considering the other platforms have blood and guts, sex, dark and grey environments, violence, movies in disguise, etc. the Wii U is a much change of pace. I am not saying the Wii U shouldn't have those games (I am all for it), but if the purpose for having these types of games is to attract the dude bro crowd then I believe the U is beyond saving by them at this point.

Look on the ''dark'' side (see what I did there). The Wii U has Bayonetta 2, Call of Duty, Fatal Frame ( localize it Nintendo), Ninja Gaiden 3, WatchDogs, Zombie U, and the upcoming Devil's Third. Honestly, no need for any more of those games, tsk tsk.

Diddy Kong doesn't hit a different audience demographic than MK8 though.

Batman and Bioshock were much more story-driven and less cerebral than Prime.

And for better or worse, today's mainstream gamers desire darker games more than they desire family friendly ones.

With how Zombi U, Bayonetta 2, and even Call of Duty on U sold, no dark and broody game is going to sell on Wii U at this point. Nintendo should stick to their guns, and make games that are fun and excellent whether they are violent or not.

If dark and brooding games is something you care about, then that is cool. Just having high expectations of that type of game from Nintendo or Retro, you are just asking for disappointment. I mean, I hope I am wrong. I would love to see a dark franchise from Retro, but it isn't something I expect from them. You could argue for Prime, but they made 2 DK games meaning they probably don't take the dark aesthetic seriously. Greatness is what I expect considering all of their games have been fantastic. DKR2 could potentially be that game of greatness (if it exist which probably isn't). ''Just give it a chance.''

I love Metroid from the bottom of my heart, but its never been a big franchise. I believe it could move more Wii U units than what DK did, but its software sales probably wouldn't get near TF. It would be nice to be proven wrong.

As for B-Man and Bio, they still share strong similarities to Prime regardless of story. I would say both games are intelligent, but maybe not on the same caliber as Prime, IMO. Another thing about Metroid is that I feel it is too smart for people of that type of demographic which alienated a lot of people who were playing Prime. The decling sales of the two games compared to the first are reflective on that.

Bayo 2 and ZombiU aren't exactly mainstream, they would not have sold gangbusters on any system.

A well rounded and diverse library is important for a console, and with third party support gone, they need games that don't fit the Mario/DK/Kirby image.

I'm not saying Bioshock or Batman aren't clever, they are simply not a substitute for something like Prime. If you want to argue that we should just turn to PS/Xbox for darker games, why buy Nintendo's family friendly games when LittleBigPlanet 3 and Knack exist?

Yeah, but Call of Duty, Watchdogs, and even Ninja Gaiden has that mainstream appeal. Both sold like crap on the system. This should tell you how bad the system is doing. Playstation/Sony kills it when appealing to everybody. Xbox is a dude bro system. Almost every cute RARE game sold like shit, except for KINECT sports which build off of the motion control fad started by the Wii. Even then you don't have a lot of cute games on those systems that sell well regardless of its quality.

I don't see how Retro's game will be ambitious or unique if it is going to appeal to mainstream gamers who play nothing but Call of Duty, GTA, and Sports games. That sounds terrible, lol. Nintendo is not going to appeal to these kinds of people. It might be appealing to me and you, but not the mainstream public.

I honestly don't care about that stuff though- dark or cute, demographics, sales, motion controls, ''ambition'', etc. If the game is great I will buy it regardless of what system it is on. None of that matters or should matter. The only problem I have is the total disregard of a game that doesn't even exist in favor for problems that doesn't necessarily concern people other than the company unless you are just not into racing, cuteness, and platformers or you work for the company personally.

A game can appeal to the mainstream without being dumbed down.

And it's in my best interest for Nintendo to remain in business so they can keep making the games I like.

Furthermore, as a Wii U owner, a diverse library obviously benefits me.

So Bayonetta 2, Devil's Third, and Zombi U isn't that appeal? It is like a damned if you do damned if you don't type situation, lol. They are filling in that niche for you, but apparently it is too niche to be considered? How mainstream and niche you want this game to be, lol!

The Wii U's library is being diversified by those games and others like Xenoblade X and Zelda. Retro should do whatever they want. If they want to make a 2D platformer; fine, a racing game; fine, a shooter; that is fine as well. This is why Retro and other companies doesn't always listen to us because it is in their best interest what game the company wants to make. The fans shouldn't have to force them to make what we want. If you or others think DKR2 a waste fine, but they more than likely wouldn't think so unless the game sucks. I know how George Lucas feels now, poor bastard.

It's not about what me or the fans want, it's what's in the Nintendo's best interest, and that isn't Diddy Kong Racing.

While I agree WiiU doesn't need another Kart racer, filling empty niches is something you should do when you have a popular console with a lacking libaray, that was tha case of Wii and could be the case of 3DS. On WiiU though, you have to do something to sustain console sales and you have 3 options:

A. You can try expand the market with an innovative product (but It's very hard to create a game like this on a niche console, plus you need to spend a lot on marketing). Splatoon could be this kind of game, but Nintendo as always is not doing enough in the marketing department.

B. You try to please your customer base by giving them what they want. This is the easisest route, you need to develop games people are asking for like Starfox, F-zero, Metroid, Paper Mario, etc. As a result you can augment WiiU adoption rates within the actual and former fanbase.

C. You can try to attract strategic customers who spend a lot on videogames and consoles but don't own a WiiU yet. In this case you need an very high-quality game, that is not too niche. ZombiU falied beacuse it wasn't good enough in temrs of quality, Bayonetta 2 on the other hand is just too niche. In this scope Nintendo should learn from its competitors, M$ did a better job with Tomb Raider. Sony did even better, with Bloodborne they made a perfect choice by taking a very acclaimed series with a very loyal fanbase in the moment it was getting more popular, and making an exclusive new IP out of it.

@ curl 6 When did you become Nintendo?

That is your opinion. Not Nintendo's or Retro's (unless you work there). It is fine to make suggestions, but it is that spoiled mentality that desecrates a fans ideology of creative freedom for companies providing for us.

''They didn't make what I want, boohoo!'' This is something I don't want to see again, but from the current state of mind of fans it will most likely happen. What a sad world we live in.

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