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teigaga said:
Xevross said:

The gap will definitely increase. PS4 will have a much better year thanks to all of the exclusives, especially in Japan while XB1 sales will fall off a cliff with the price going back to $399 and no exclusives for a long time. That being said, if the price doesn't go back up to $399 then it'll make this a lot harder to call

That simply won't happen. XBox has a stellar line up next year and don't forget that most system sellers are 3rd party not 1st party. The Order 1886 is unlikey to be a massive deal and Bloodborne has a very specific audience who are probably leaning sony anyway.

I'd say the gap will remain the same or increase slightly. The ground XB1 made in US isn't gonna vanish vanish overnight. A potential gap  increase will be from PS4 sales shooting through the roof in EU and finally finding its feat in Japan. In america I see Xbox dropping to levels slightly below PS4 which is far better then what we saw throughout the majority of this year.

I don't see why it could not happen in the future.

And first party games have the same potential to be system sellers as third party games. Series like Halo and Uncharted are pretty much the biggest system sellers for each specific console they release on.

In regards to The Order 1886 not being a massive deal, it is currently the highest pre-ordered game in America (the PS4's weakest market) with 152790 pre-orders ten weeks out from release. And while VGChartz is sometimes off with pre-orders it's almost always undertracking. The Order 1886 has gotten better with each showing and will likely be a massive release.

Bloodborne may has a specific audience but it is by no means small given prior entries have sold 1.75 million for demon souls, 1,9 million for dark souls and 1 million for dark souls 2 (coming out after ps4's release). Now the franchise is well known and back to being exclusive on the PS4 it may well top the two million mark.

I believe the gap will increase signifigantly as a result of these big releases as well as the China launch and Final Fantasy Type Zero setting the Japanese market on fire.



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If PS4 plans to cut price, Xbox will counter to 299.99. MS has shown they are willing to be aggressive and it will continue. PS4 will still outsell Xbox One but at a lower pace, unless Xbox can work magic on Europe like US and UK, However very unlikely.

Also, look at Japan this week for PS4 65,000 units. Xbox 844, just WOW! MS has totally failed, they should have launched in Japan Day one. They need to be way more strategic if they even want to get half the sales of PS4 or The Wii U.



LordLichtenstein said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

With (probably) the first official price cut for PS4, and with many people pushing their Xbox purchases forward due to holiday deals, not to mention PS4's stronger line up in the first half, I'd say the gap will be bigger.

Plus, you'd expect sales for both to increase on their second year, and if they have a similar percentage increase, it would mean a bigger raw number increase for PS4. It's very natural for products and basically expected. 


Yes but the second half of the year will See Halo 5's launch, along with massive sales. They also cut price for the season to 299. or at least for Black friday Either way you will see a lower price cut then 350.


Are you saying Halo 5 will cause massive sales?


Halo 5? Oh yea, the first real next gen Halo is going to smash records, take names and go streaking in the streets.



DJEVOLVE said:
LordLichtenstein said:
DJEVOLVE said:
Troll_Whisperer said:

With (probably) the first official price cut for PS4, and with many people pushing their Xbox purchases forward due to holiday deals, not to mention PS4's stronger line up in the first half, I'd say the gap will be bigger.

Plus, you'd expect sales for both to increase on their second year, and if they have a similar percentage increase, it would mean a bigger raw number increase for PS4. It's very natural for products and basically expected. 


Yes but the second half of the year will See Halo 5's launch, along with massive sales. They also cut price for the season to 299. or at least for Black friday Either way you will see a lower price cut then 350.


Are you saying Halo 5 will cause massive sales?


Halo 5? Oh yea, the first real next gen Halo is going to smash records, take names and go streaking in the streets.

Are you talking about HW?



LordLichtenstein said:
DJEVOLVE said:


Halo 5? Oh yea, the first real next gen Halo is going to smash records, take names and go streaking in the streets.

Are you talking about HW?

Actual Halo sequels  move a massive amount of Hardware. Halo MCC was all games they already have, owned or played already.



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Mikmster said:
KBG29 said:

What about this would be a joke?

PlayStation Vue, Direct TV, and Verizon's OTT Television services are going to be huge next year. Many people that do subscribe to cable are fed up with the inadequate equipment and out dated services. If these services are anywhere near similar in price to traditional cable, people will be doing a lot of research next year, and with no commitments, they will be free to try all avenues.

As far as Windows 10 and productivty apps go. This is a dream come true for every kid that has ever lived on the planet. If you can tell your parents that this $300 device can play all the games you like, and you can do research, and right your papers on it, that is the kind of stuff that will get many parents to take the plung. Games and entertainment are one thing, adding education, and productivity opens up the doors to millions, if not billions more consumers.

PS4 and XBO are moving out of the territory of the hardcore gamer, and towards the casual audience that uses the consoles for a lot more than games. With next year most likly seeing $299.99 price tags, it will be a lot different consumer looking at the consoles than Feruary to March 2013. At this point the games are coming, and the more services, software, and functionality a console has becomes a lot more important.

so a joke it is, in a world(1st world) where most 10 year olds have a phone tablet and a home PC.  A kids dream is to hope their parents are total morons and will fall for such a joke reason to buy a video game console.  Iv seen people go to some great lengths to bs them selves and justify their purchases.  But you take the prize.  Why the hell would any one buy a GAMING console for any of that when they can get a tablet pc laptop hell phone to do that ??? 

Gaming, thats why they sale and will sale.  Not tv movies or lmao education.  Whats the average age of a gamers around 30 right, so yahh kids parents and education on video game console lol.  Step back into reality bro, you are really grasping at straws in the 4th dimention here.

I guess I just don't see how gamers can be so close minded. Sony and Nintendo destroyed any chances they had to make gaming handhelds massive success, and in the process have nearly knocked themselves from portable gaming all together. Why? Because Apple came along, and made a device that plays games, music, movies, productivity apps, educational apps, makes phone calls, and much much more. Then they continued to sit around and do nothing while google followed apple right down the road to a mega success. Now there are many devices that are more powerful, play better games, are more functional, and cheaper than 3DS and Vita. Everything they do is better, and the numbers speak for themselves.

At this point in time there is not one device that brings the complexity of a smartphone or PC, and the simplicity of a smartphone or console to the TV screen. That is the brilliance of the smartphone, it is complex enough to do nearly anything, while also being extremely simple. Consoles have the simplicity to mimic a smartphone, but lack the complexity or sophistication to deliver what PC and Smartphones offer. If Sony and MS want to survive and strive in this position of big screen dominance, they have to adapt. Android and iOS powered devices, are right on the outskirts, and could strike at any time. If they bring the full package to the big screen like they have to smartphones, it will be game over for the Playstation and Xbox brands. 

As far as XBO's failure at launch. To me that came down to extreamly bad choices. Had Microsoft not had the no used games issue, and then had Don Mattrick stand there and say if you don't like it buy a 360, things could have been a lot different. Delivering voice and motion controls, allowing multiple programs to be snappped at the same time, and live TV through XBO is not what hurt it. Those features are helping it turn the corner in the US, along with massive price drops. Unfortunetly for Microsoft, they barried the best features of their console under bad publicity, and it has taken time to get people to understand just what XBO really brings to the table.



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The PS4 will extend its lead world wide but will lose the US sometime in the future to the Xbox One.



DJEVOLVE said:

Also, look at Japan this week for PS4 65,000 units. Xbox 844, just WOW! MS has totally failed, they should have launched in Japan Day one. They need to be way more strategic if they even want to get half the sales of PS4 or The Wii U.


That's not MS fault man. Japan is a special case.



The gap will grow significantly.

At launch x1 had more exclusive/timed exclusive, even in the first year, but loose. In 2015 PS4 had a lot of exclusive more then x1, so for me is easy to predict that PS4 will dominate the 2015.

There's a lot of other stuff like price cut that Sony didn't played it this year instead of MS, or Project morpheus, or the superiority of the multi-platform titles.

I will be repetitive, but for me the gap will grow significantly (PS4 to have 60% total market share by June 2015).





The more 3rd party games, the better.



3rd party titles continues to push PS4 units, while Xbox One doesn't get the same level of 'push'.

In 2015 there will be even more "big" 3rd party titles releasing, and if the trend continues - PS4 will come out on top, again.

-Dying Light
-Evolve
-Final Fantasy Type-0
-Project Cars
-Battlefield: Hardline
-Mortal Kombat X
-The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
-Batman: Arkham Knight
-Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
-Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4
-Madden NFL 16
-FIFA 16
-Assassin's Creed Victory
-Star Wars: Battlefront
-Untitled Call of Duty Game
-Rainbow Six Siege
-The Division



Exclusives.



And J-Stars Victory VS+

17 announced retail games that will come to Playstation 4, but not Xbox One - all in 2015. (I am probably forgetting some)

Playstation 4:

1st Party games - increases PS4's lead
3rd Party games - increases PS4's lead

Xbox One:

1st Party games - decreases PS4's lead.

2 steps back, 1 step foward.





I fully expect Japan to have a much higer baseline in 2015. 



(This list has not been updated for a few weeks)





The PS4 is launching in China in January, which should give the system a good boost. It'll be cheaper than the X1 in that country and going by the polls and forums, the PS4 is preferred way more. With a good launch library, it should easily do substantially better than the X1 over there.





It would be dump to think, that Playstation would go through another Holiday with a $399 price tag.



Yes, PS4 will increase the gap.

*Stolen from one of my other threads.