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Ryudo said:
Street Fighter is like Mario Kart for Nintendo. They have long long legs. Tomb Raider is another hyped game of the week that drops to 20 bucks after 3 months. SF will continue to sell for years

This.

Watch Dogs was way WAY bigger than TR 2013, and look at where Watch Dogs sales are now. Most titles have little long-term impact.

TR will be a flash in the pan at best. That's not a dig at MS, as Sony has plenty of flash in the pan games too. ISS comes to mind. Decent sales for a few weeks to months, then off to the bargain bin, out of the top 100, and soon forgotten.



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Samus Aran said:
prayformojo said:
method114 said:
Chris Hu said:
Neither, both are somewhat overrated franchises.


lol SF is overrated? Ok I don't even know what to say to this. If there was a poll of the greatest fighting franchise of all time SF would win if not be damn near close it's far from overrated.


What ever happened to Tekken? I thought that use to be way up there too.

Super Smash Bros. is better than all of them together. It's the only one that's actually unique and creative. And don't give me the crap that it's a party game, it's both a serious fighter and a party game. That's another reason why it's better than the rest. 

Though I don't like any fighting game really, or hack & slash. Most boring games ever. Watching God of War is a guilty pleasure of mine though. Yeah, watching, not playing. 

So for me Tomb Raider would automatically win. 

 

I absolutely love Smash Bros. I've never missed one and I bought my Wii U almost exclusively for the new one.

But I don't know if I'd really consider it a SF or Tekken competitor. I can't even really give you a good reason why, I just don't see them as being the same type of game. Sort of like comparing Mario Tennis and Fifa, both technically sports games...but not really competitors.

 

Also, this wasn't about which you like the most, but what will have a bigger impact. SF exclusively almost makes the PS4 a must buy for hardcore fighting game fans.



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Arkaign said:
Ryudo said:
Street Fighter is like Mario Kart for Nintendo. They have long long legs. Tomb Raider is another hyped game of the week that drops to 20 bucks after 3 months. SF will continue to sell for years

This.

Watch Dogs was way WAY bigger than TR 2013, and look at where Watch Dogs sales are now. Most titles have little long-term impact.

TR will be a flash in the pan at best. That's not a dig at MS, as Sony has plenty of flash in the pan games too. ISS comes to mind. Decent sales for a few weeks to months, then off to the bargain bin, out of the top 100, and soon forgotten.

I agree mostly, but just to throw something into the conversation, Capcom really did milk street fighter 4 to death I wonder if that damaged the brand at all? 



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Arkaign said:
Ryudo said:
Street Fighter is like Mario Kart for Nintendo. They have long long legs. Tomb Raider is another hyped game of the week that drops to 20 bucks after 3 months. SF will continue to sell for years

This.

Watch Dogs was way WAY bigger than TR 2013, and look at where Watch Dogs sales are now. Most titles have little long-term impact.

TR will be a flash in the pan at best. That's not a dig at MS, as Sony has plenty of flash in the pan games too. ISS comes to mind. Decent sales for a few weeks to months, then off to the bargain bin, out of the top 100, and soon forgotten.

I agree mostly, but just to throw something into the conversation, Capcom really did milk street fighter 4 to death I wonder if that damaged the brand at all? 


That's what Capcom does. That's what they always did. Ever since Street Fighter II they release 7-8 versions. They sold SFII on different versions for like 8 years before III or something. Then how long between III and IV? Main series I mean.



kupomogli said:

Tomb Raider.

People are looking at the previous sales of Street Fighter 4 and all of its versions, but they're forgetting everything in between Street Fighter 4 and Street Fighter 2 that didn't sell well. Capcom milked the series so hard in the 90s that when newer versions of the game came out, people just didn't care and I feel the same thing is happening again with Street Fighter 5.

I think this is how it's going to turn out. Casual gamers or casual fighting game fans don't play fighters to perfect their technique and they'll probably play it around a week before their friends and them finally give up on it and move to something else. Those interested might play online a bit, rage after several losses as they're unskilled scrubs and quit. If this has happened to them a few times in the past few years I'm sure it's stuck within their memory and they'll ignore most fighting games. Being reminded with constant releases of Street Fighter 4 and how quick they got bored of it isn't doing any favors for Street Fighter 5.

Street Fighter 5 is going to sell worse than just the PS3 Street Fighter 4 combined sales.

Good point. It's not for nothing that SF4 took so long to be released. I don't remember SFIII being super popular on consoles for people who weren't really into the series.



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Samus Aran said:

Super Smash Bros. is better than all of them together. It's the only one that's actually unique and creative. And don't give me the crap that it's a party game, it's both a serious fighter and a party game. That's another reason why it's better than the rest. 

Though I don't like any fighting game really, or hack & slash. Most boring games ever. Watching God of War is a guilty pleasure of mine though. Yeah, watching, not playing. 

So for me Tomb Raider would automatically win. 

I think (I'm not a big fan of fighting games myself so I can't speak on this all that well) SSB problem is it's aesthetically cute and childlike where as SF, Tekken, MK etc. are more mature and have more edge. 



Hmmm i actually think TR will kinda flop so im going to say SF



Street Fighter because its not timed (at least the original) and it's a bigger franchise without a responding game from Microsoft.



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Tomb Raider did worse than I thought on 360. Only 1.75 on the platform. Being on the less popular platform and going up against Uncharted could lead to even lower sales. I'm thinking Tomb Raider will do about 2m between 360 and XBO. Maybe 1m lifetime on XBO.

I'm starting to question why Microsoft even bought this game.



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Popularity on general
Tomb Rider : 8
Street Fighter: 9

Nostalgic element for veteran gamer
Tomb Rider : 7
Street Fighter: 9

Franchise overall achievement on meta score and general review from time to time
Tomb Rider : 7
Street Fighter: 10

Popularity for their own genre (their market position if compared with other games on their own genre)
Tomb Rider: 6
Street Fighter: 10