Well, this isn't true at all. There's a lot of very good games on that list. 

You can't be serious. Most "flash games" are the very definition of insanely indie lol. 

Well I have to say I vist a lot of forums and I do not remember any real positive remarks from people who only gamed on the PS3.  I remember then ignoring indie or XBLG and dismissign those games just like we see today.  Basically what I am saying is that the bar is always moving and both sides continue a war over really nothing.

When all is said and done its always people who champion one console over another that see importance in even the smallest thing.  I am sure if all the games listed come to the X1 then there would be a new bar stating they came out on the PS4 first or something like that.  These forums are filled with a moving target for both sides as they argue why one console is better than the other.

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Downplay incoming in 3, 2, 1... wait what the. Samus we're supposed to do it on 1!
Pfft, those are not games. Only AAA exclusives that are not ports or remakes have any value don

prepare to hear

1- i cant play this chit, not enough volumetric smoke when my grenade detonates

2- the textures in room 3 on floor 6 have the worse textures ive ever seen, not playing this garbage(even if it scored/rated high)

3 -spirit character models=horse chit and im not playing this game(even if fun factor is off the charts)

4- what,only a 3million dollar budget went into this indy game instead of 80million? forget it,this isnt even a real game than(even if it offers a new type of gaming experience)

5- you want me to play this 2d challenging/intricate well thought out indy platformer when instead i can play a huge open world game that goes on for 50 miles of land(even though 40 miles is probably nothing more than dry desert or large areas with not much to show/do in it)

@Bold:  I believe MS keeps the clause so they can deny junk or half assed efforts from developers.  Not all developers are made equal and I am sure MS want to check if the developer will bring a legit game to their platform instead of a weak effort for modest sales.  Either way it will be interesting if MS keep the clause.  They still in that "We love control" mindset but the industry is moving away from that model so MS will have to adjust or die.

Most "first on PS4" games never launch on xb1 because of the Microsoft parity clause. And most indie games are first on PS4.

Now i understand why the beast is called PLAYSTATION 😊

Good, I hope as many of them as possible find an audience. Small game publishing is the industry's best hope the way I see it.

Meh, I would like to believe MS has the indie clause as some sort of Nintendo'esque "seal of approval", but then you have stuff like Nutjitsu and Flockers and Lococycle and Sixty Second Shooter.

Content is content.

Granted, traditional console players don't buy their consoles for small/indie releases, but this is more or less the direction the industry is headed due to the costs and risk involved in major retail releases. I make a point in not using the catch all AAA label which only includes a handful of titles each year.

AAA titles will still continue to sell consoles and play a key role in determining consumer buying habits, but the portion of the market that buys a console mainly or even only to play a handful of major releases each year is pretty far from all encompassing.

Support for the PS4 over the XBO simply reflects a larger installed user base, more favorable public opinion and presumably more favorable developer/platform relations.