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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - IGN "Recent sales data indicates Super Smash Bros. may not have given Wii U the boost it needs."

Eddie_Raja on 08 December 2014
XanderXT said:
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nanarchy said:
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LOL is this a surprise. I called this months ago that because it came out on 3DS first (The WAYYYY more popular platform), it wouldn't do all that much.


yep, even with that there were plenty on these forums saying it was going to be a huge system seller, bigger than COD and Halo even. Wii U needs some good marketing, some 3rd party support and maybe a price drop if it wants to boost its baseline numbers.

It needs to be $150 with just a standard wireless controller.  This thing is 5 times weaker than the Xbox One, and it is nearly the same price at this point.  The Tablet Is. Not. Worth it.

Then why would anyone buy it? PS360 has more games. The Tablet is the only diffrenciator between the Wii U and PS360.

For Nintendo games.  The only reason anyone ever buys a Nintendo console.  Otherwise people would (And have) bought a PS3 or 360.

The only Nintendo games you'll play are none. Because that would require reworking the entire OS just for it to work without a tablet. And People would complain about the infrequency of the OS updates, because they are focusing on eworking the entire OS just for it to work without a tablet.

LOL it already does work without a tablet.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

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cutzman25 on 08 December 2014

More people will buy the console for Mario Kart than SSB. I for one have never gotten into SSB, and fighting games are my favs



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Pavolink on 08 December 2014

I hope one day IGN discovers that people is capable of writing great articles that some of us are willing to read.

Not that it has to do anything with this, just wanted to post.



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XanderXT on 08 December 2014
chakkra said:
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I really REALLY doubt that anyone would chose the Wii U over the PS360 because of the tablet. And this is coming from someone who actually likes the concept of off TV playing, but like Eddie_Raja said, paying $100 for it, is just not worth it.

And if you make it tabletless, you get a console with few exclusives, no multiplats, and weaker than the other consoles. I don't think that would make it have a boost in popularity.

Again, I think the gamepad adds zero appeal to the console to convince those who has not bought it yet. Now, a $75-$100 dollars diference, THAT would sway a lot of people into bying it for its exclusives.

But you know what, I actually think that it is too late for that. That is something Nintendo should have done in its first year just like MS did. I think all they can do now is try to put more value into their bundles throwing more games in. And maybe an option of a $250 console with no games, for those interested in other non traditional games (like Bayonetta, Zombie U, etc). 

If they removed the Tablet during that time, games like ZombiU would be unusable. Plus, it would just be a weak Nintendo console if they did that.

Well, the 700,000 people who bought Zombie U already had the Gamepad so I don't see how they would have been affected. Besides, they could have kept the Gamepad as add on for those very few that actually want it.

And again, I think the gamepad adds close to zero appeal to the console. I'm quite certain that 99% of Wii U buyers didn't say: "you know what? this one has a tablet controller so I'm going to chose it over the others". No, I'm sure they said something like this: "you know what? this one has SM3DW, Zelda WW, MK8, SSMB, DKTF, Bayonetta, etc, so I'm going to chose it over the others"

So.. instead of being "just a weak Nintendo console" with a controller that no one cares about for $300, it would've been "a weak Nintendo console" for $200 and a bunch of awesome exclusives to play.

And why would anyone buy it? That would be put their popularity on an all time low. Why buy a Wii U, when you can buy a PS3 with more games? And if you said, the "Nintendo Difference", look how much a price cut to 99$ helped the GameCube.



XanderXT on 08 December 2014
Eddie_Raja said:
XanderXT said:
Eddie_Raja said:
XanderXT said:

Then why would anyone buy it? PS360 has more games. The Tablet is the only diffrenciator between the Wii U and PS360.

For Nintendo games.  The only reason anyone ever buys a Nintendo console.  Otherwise people would (And have) bought a PS3 or 360.

The only Nintendo games you'll play are none. Because that would require reworking the entire OS just for it to work without a tablet. And People would complain about the infrequency of the OS updates, because they are focusing on eworking the entire OS just for it to work without a tablet.

LOL it already does work without a tablet.

You don't understand what I'm saying, are you? Besides, if they do what you said, a few hundred thousand will buy it, but no profitability. The GameCube was the cheapest in the market, yet still finished last.



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chakkra on 08 December 2014
XanderXT said:
chakkra said:
XanderXT said:

If they removed the Tablet during that time, games like ZombiU would be unusable. Plus, it would just be a weak Nintendo console if they did that.

Well, the 700,000 people who bought Zombie U already had the Gamepad so I don't see how they would have been affected. Besides, they could have kept the Gamepad as add on for those very few that actually want it.

And again, I think the gamepad adds close to zero appeal to the console. I'm quite certain that 99% of Wii U buyers didn't say: "you know what? this one has a tablet controller so I'm going to chose it over the others". No, I'm sure they said something like this: "you know what? this one has SM3DW, Zelda WW, MK8, SSMB, DKTF, Bayonetta, etc, so I'm going to chose it over the others"

So.. instead of being "just a weak Nintendo console" with a controller that no one cares about for $300, it would've been "a weak Nintendo console" for $200 and a bunch of awesome exclusives to play.

And why would anyone buy it? That would be put their popularity on an all time low. Why buy a Wii U, when you can buy a PS3 with more games? And if you said, the "Nintendo Difference", look how much a price cut to 99$ helped the GameCube.

Why would anyone buy it???
YES. the answer to that question is the  "Nintendo Difference". And the Gamecube was in a totally different scenario, the Xbox and PS2 didnt cost $400 back then, and the Gamecube was not following a 100 millions install base.



XanderXT on 08 December 2014
chakkra said:
XanderXT said:
chakkra said:

Well, the 700,000 people who bought Zombie U already had the Gamepad so I don't see how they would have been affected. Besides, they could have kept the Gamepad as add on for those very few that actually want it.

And again, I think the gamepad adds close to zero appeal to the console. I'm quite certain that 99% of Wii U buyers didn't say: "you know what? this one has a tablet controller so I'm going to chose it over the others". No, I'm sure they said something like this: "you know what? this one has SM3DW, Zelda WW, MK8, SSMB, DKTF, Bayonetta, etc, so I'm going to chose it over the others"

So.. instead of being "just a weak Nintendo console" with a controller that no one cares about for $300, it would've been "a weak Nintendo console" for $200 and a bunch of awesome exclusives to play.

And why would anyone buy it? That would be put their popularity on an all time low. Why buy a Wii U, when you can buy a PS3 with more games? And if you said, the "Nintendo Difference", look how much a price cut to 99$ helped the GameCube.

Why would anyone buy it???
YES. the answer to that question is the  "Nintendo Difference". And the Gamecube was in a totally different scenario, the Xbox and PS2 didnt cost $400 back then, and the Gamecube was not following a 100 millions install base.

You seriously think that even 2 million people would buy it because of a price cut? Either they buy it at 200$ refurbished, or they don't at all. They won't discontinue the Gamepad anytime soon.



Blob on 08 December 2014

Amiibos are where Nintendos money will be until the end of the wii u lifecycle (if theyre smart and make a hub game that is). Unfortuantely Amiibos requrie the gamepad so I guess there's no getting rid of it. Case closed.



chakkra on 08 December 2014
XanderXT said:
chakkra said:
XanderXT said:

And why would anyone buy it? That would be put their popularity on an all time low. Why buy a Wii U, when you can buy a PS3 with more games? And if you said, the "Nintendo Difference", look how much a price cut to 99$ helped the GameCube.

Why would anyone buy it???
YES. the answer to that question is the  "Nintendo Difference". And the Gamecube was in a totally different scenario, the Xbox and PS2 didnt cost $400 back then, and the Gamecube was not following a 100 millions install base.

You seriously think that even 2 million people would buy it because of a price cut? Either they buy it at 200$ refurbished, or they don't at all. They won't discontinue the Gamepad anytime soon.

YES. I seriously believe that A LOT more than 2 million people would buy it because of a price cut. BUT, I do agree with you that they won't discontinue the Gamepad for better or for worse, and at this point all this discussion is a waste of time since we will never really know what would have happened if they had followed the other path so...



BoundByInk on 08 December 2014

I heard that this will be last SSB game?