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Kerotan said:
Ninty need to swallow their pride and drop the tablet and release a much cheaper Wii U. If it launched without that and much cheaper it would be doing a little better now over all. It's like the kinect. Just an add on most people don't want, especially not at the extra cost.

 

I disagree with you, while A gamepad is not essential or mandatory to play console games, in this case: the WiiU, the large majority of the games use it in a mandatory way.

You would have to rewrite & retool the code of all the games existing, patch them, redo the console OS, drop a unique, differentiating way of playing for what, maybe a few thousand sales? All the games would have to be retooled, you certainly can see how it doesn't make sense at all.

If you simply remove the gamepad on the WiiU, the console does not work, hence my car engine comparison. To make the WiiU work without the Pad would take enormous amount of time, money for an hazardous outcome.

It takes at least between 1 & 2 years to make a game, so games without the gamepad would start releasing in 2 years, near the end of the WiiU life cycle, can't see that happening or anyone interested in dropping money on such an hazardous venture. I'm sure you can agree with that?



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KylieDog said:
tbone51 said:
Profits > Bigger Installbase


Bigger install base = more software sales = better profits.

 

So let's sell X1 or PS4 at 1$, shall we??? Sales skyrocket ensuing massive profits, right???

There are a quantity of variables, factors to take in account wich you happily swept of the picture like they are nothing... Thresholds, diminishing return, profits from games go tho said game publishers, not all games make profit etc. etc.

While your "More consoles = more games sales = more profits from games" formula isn't necessarly false it's not necessarily true either!

Furthermore, user base is not dictated only by the price, look at Iphone, not the cheapest phone on the market, yet...

Rather than parting money with a price cut, better & a lot more marketing would do marvels IMO.



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burninmylight said:
This is the third or fourth thread on this in the past 36 hours.


It feels like Stalinian Propaganda, hammer the Dogma ad nauseum!



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Game_God said:
burninmylight said:
This is the third or fourth thread on this in the past 36 hours.


It feels like Stalinian Propaganda, hammer the Dogma ad nauseum!


It just feels like pure laziness to me. Less than 10 seconds on Google, and I found thi:

http://wiiudaily.com/wii-u-black-friday-deals/

It's like people want Reggie to come knock on their door like a Jehovah's Witness or something.



burninmylight said:
Game_God said:
burninmylight said:
This is the third or fourth thread on this in the past 36 hours.


It feels like Stalinian Propaganda, hammer the Dogma ad nauseum!


It just feels like pure laziness to me. Less than 10 seconds on Google, and I found thi:

http://wiiudaily.com/wii-u-black-friday-deals/

It's like people want Reggie to come knock on their door like a Jehovah's Witness or something.


Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

It wouldn't surprise me, some fanboys live this like a religion, maybe they need some door to door convincing, remember this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bygdnz2gZIQ

On that commercial, that was really great marketing, not the bland WiiU commercials we have now!



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KylieDog said:

The UK retail has adopted Black Friday quite heavily this year (Black Friday has never been a thing over here).  Right now can find Xbox One and PS4 bundles for super cheap, like PS4+Driveclub for £280, GTAV and TLOU for £300, Xbone+CoD:AW for £270, Xbone+4 games for £300.  Plus lots more.

Meanwhile Nintendo bundles are sitting at the prices they were 6 months ago, or last year.  Many have no discount at all.  Wii U+SSB+MK+CPP =£300.  Thats right, costs more than the PS4/Xbone bundles.

Why has Nintendo not done deals with retailers for Black Friday deals?  Have they given up?  Do they think they don't have enough games to make back the discount loss in future software sale



FInd deals here: http://www.hotukdeals.com/gaming/deals/hot


I guess it is regional because in Canada WalMart sell the console bundle plus a game of ur choice for 299$. It's mean a console and 3games



As I mentioned in another thread, Nintendo's motive this gen (at least since the massive 3DS price cut in August 2011) is not about hardware expansion but rather squeezing more from their most loyal fans. Remakes and revisions to hardware (for the 3DS), Nintendo figurines in Amiibos, lack of any official consumer friendly deals this black friday all spelled, to me at least, that they are not intrested in trying to recapture any ground from the Wii/DS era.



KylieDog said:
JazzB1987 said:

Well if you dont even want to look for deals (this is what I assume since It took me 2 seconds to find it) its quite obvious why you dont know about them right?


http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00P68FY0M/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d1_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0HQCHD3RW9VFAWG9BS49&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455344027&pf_rd_i=468294

WiiU
+ Wiimote(motion plus)
+NintendoLand
+Wi Party U
+Super Mario 3D World
+ Mario Kart 8
=199 pounds.


That's the only semi-decent Wii U offer anywhere, it's a basic Wii U and lets be frank, two of the games are bad and nobody is in short supply of Wiimotes.

Semi-decent? No is great. People can buy others games later. 



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KylieDog said:
Dulfite said:
KylieDog said:


Bigger install base = more software sales = better profits.


Bigger install base = more software sales - loss on hardware = potentially bigger or lesser profits. If a company lowers their console devise by $50-100, but gamers only buy a couple digital games or one big game to go with it, then the company is actually losing money they would have gotten if they sold it at a higher price and not sold the additional game. Going after an install base only mentality doesn't always work.

The profit comes over time, not day 1.  Once they own a Wii U they'll buy more games for it over time.  Something they'll never do if entry price is too high.

That's stilla gamble I think they arent willing to bet on until after this quarter though.



KylieDog said:
burninmylight said:
Game_God said:
burninmylight said:
This is the third or fourth thread on this in the past 36 hours.


It feels like Stalinian Propaganda, hammer the Dogma ad nauseum!


It just feels like pure laziness to me. Less than 10 seconds on Google, and I found thi:

http://wiiudaily.com/wii-u-black-friday-deals/

It's like people want Reggie to come knock on their door like a Jehovah's Witness or something.


What great UK deals.

I should point out that it wasn't directed at you, but at everyone else saying there are no BF deals. I understand that you can't take advantage of the deals in my link, but to be honest, I don't feel like you need to.

If you're still whining about Black Friday UK deals after the link above from JazzB1987, then it's obvious you'd rather whine than shop. A £200 Wii U with SM3DW + MK8 alone is worth that much. Throw in a couple of games that get quite fun when you have guests over, and you got yourself a deal.

You basically want a massive price cut + half a dozen AAA first party exclusives without having to search for it yourself, because you've been shitting on every BF deal presented to you throughout this redundant and pointless thread that exists three or four times over like I previously stated. I'll come back here when I find a UK deal with every single first party Wii U game released, Wonderful 101 and the Bayonettas + two Pro Controllers for under £99.