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Sony should have made a price cut as well for the holidays, to stay competitive in the US letting the X1 take the lead is not good for their bussines... i dont know if they are being overconfident on their product, or if they expect the PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015...

what if MS doesnt take away the pricecut after the holidays ever thought of that SONY?



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estebxx said:
Sony should have made a price cut as well for the holidays, to stay competitive in the US letting the X1 take the lead is not good for their bussines... i dont know if they are being overconfident on their product, or if they expect the PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015...

what if MS doesnt take away the pricecut after the holidays ever thought of that SONY?

MS definitely won't raise the price back to $399, that would be insane.

More scary for MS : the no-game vanilla $399 PS4 is back on top of $349 double-game AC bundle X1, and has been for a little bit now. No other SKUs even close, the next one being Destiny PS4 waaay up there in the irrelevant rankings.

So once the MCC / price-cut bump passed, PS4 is back on top for day to day sales. Price for a PS4 + game = $459, price for an X1 + game(s) = $349, and PS4 is still outselling X1. Now THAT is panic stations, as the entire $349/MCC bump for early November can be erased on BF alone if the stock is available.

I expected X1 to take November NPD, but now I'm more like 60/40 PS4 takes it by 5-15%. Globally it will be laughable.



Torillian said:
Sharpryno said:

quote: "Xbox One's autumn 2015 lineup is so 'crazy', Microsoft may have to 'purposely move some things out'"

now... do i really have to post more of these?

Yes, he is talking about games. Not gloating over sales like this guy.  Get over yourself and stop defending an arragant man who is saying the wrong things. 

So it's not how they're gloating but the content of their gloating that matters most.  So odd that the company who's winning this generation is the most boastful about sales.  

mod stuff: fixed the title to more accurately reflect the content of the review.  

What do you mean? That is what I said prior to your post. You seemingly ignored it.  There is no reason for this guy to be bragging about sales, the success of the Vita, how Driveclub is doing fine and all this other stuff that is either false or something only fanboys want to hear about. 

 

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estebxx said:
Sony should have made a price cut as well for the holidays, to stay competitive in the US letting the X1 take the lead is not good for their bussines... i dont know if they are being overconfident on their product, or if they expect the PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015...

what if MS doesnt take away the pricecut after the holidays ever thought of that SONY?


Well why would they not expect teh PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015? And what makes you think they won't stay competitive in the US? The XB1 has not taken the lead YET it is still over a million behind. Why would they just jump at every move MS makes? Why panic or even be fazed after only 1 week? Wouldn't it be smarter to wait it out and see if the price cut is long term or if the sales the XB1 received was just a spike or a new baseline? It makes ABSOLUTELY no sense from a business perspective to do anything at this point. They are trying to profit as much as they can right now and are still leading WW and only got doubled in the US for 1 week(as far as we know).So they made the correct choice.

As for your second statement they more than likley did think of that BUT because that has not happened YET they do not need to react to it just yet.



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Ps4 will still be competitive and outsell xb1. Maybe not globally in the USA, and UK but it will globally. Xbox numbers will increase, but they badly need it so.



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JayWood2010 said:

Title is misleading 2:1 is lifetime not current  and at that he seemed dismissive on the entire subject.


If he wasn't you would all call him and Sony arrogant.  And if this is misleading, it is no more so than XBox PR and tweets we got last week.  At least with this you can actually get clarification if you bother to read the article



estebxx said:
Sony should have made a price cut as well for the holidays, to stay competitive in the US letting the X1 take the lead is not good for their bussines... i dont know if they are being overconfident on their product, or if they expect the PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015...

what if MS doesnt take away the pricecut after the holidays ever thought of that SONY?


Then they can drop the price.  Think of it this way.  Microsoft needs to sell the equivilant of extra units to regain that lost price.  If it doesnt microsoft cant just re up the price again it just creates pr problems.  Sony can at any time drop the price but as long as current numbers dont drop why should they? Its not about selling the most units at the expense of profits on.  Its about cutting expenses and increasing revenue for the ultimate goal: as much profit as possible.  Software royalties is another thing entirely but you can be damn sure whether a pricedrop is coming or not is decided by people who knows alot about consumer behaviour and attachment rates than you and i do. 



tiffac said:

Psst~ you won't be unfazed for long when the X1 overtakes the PS4 in the US.


It's already losing the Amazon Hourly chart and the PS4 bundles haven't even started.  BF week is the most important and the PS4 deals are a bigger savings based on what you can get with your money right now.  I'm sure they will be fine.  Just look at how things are right now.  PS4 regular prices is beating a 350 Xbox One with a free game(s) now.



The crazy part is that the author of the article says that it is likely that the XB1 has sold 5 million... Too damn funny. Does anyone believe that there are 5 million XB1's sitting on shelves? If they believe that, there is a bridge I have to sell them!



It is near the end of the end....

Arkaign said:

MS definitely won't raise the price back to $399, that would be insane.

More scary for MS : the no-game vanilla $399 PS4 is back on top of $349 double-game AC bundle X1, and has been for a little bit now. No other SKUs even close, the next one being Destiny PS4 waaay up there in the irrelevant rankings.

So once the MCC / price-cut bump passed, PS4 is back on top for day to day sales. Price for a PS4 + game = $459, price for an X1 + game(s) = $349, and PS4 is still outselling X1. Now THAT is panic stations, as the entire $349/MCC bump for early November can be erased on BF alone if the stock is available.

I expected X1 to take November NPD, but now I'm more like 60/40 PS4 takes it by 5-15%. Globally it will be laughable.

didnt knew about that, Novembers NPD is gonna be easily the most interesting one of the year.

TheBlackNaruto said:

Well why would they not expect teh PS4 to perform amazingly in 2015? And what makes you think they won't stay competitive in the US? The XB1 has not taken the lead YET it is still over a million behind. Why would they just jump at every move MS makes? Why panic or even be fazed after only 1 week? Wouldn't it be smarter to wait it out and see if the price cut is long term or if the sales the XB1 received was just a spike or a new baseline? It makes ABSOLUTELY no sense from a business perspective to do anything at this point. They are trying to profit as much as they can right now and are still leading WW and only got doubled in the US for 1 week(as far as we know).So they made the correct choice.

As for your second statement they more than likley did think of that BUT because that has not happened YET they do not need to react to it just yet.

i take back what i said about 2015, with Bloodborne, Uncharted 4 and all those japanese exlcusives coming up (including Persona 5 in Japan) then 2015 is gonna be the new 2009.

also im not saying that they are not gonna be competitive, its just that i want them to be MORE competitive than what they are now, but if what Arkaign said is true, then they made the right choice and it seems they might have a chance of coming close to wining if Black Friday gives them a big boost. (which is possible).

as for the second statement that i highlighted, i know that is the smartest move, but since the holidays move so many units i just want to see Sony being more competitive in that period, thats why i said what i said BUT it seems that despite the lack of a price cut they might just have a chance at winning November NPD.

dyremose said:

Then they can drop the price.  Think of it this way.  Microsoft needs to sell the equivilant of extra units to regain that lost price.  If it doesnt microsoft cant just re up the price again it just creates pr problems.  Sony can at any time drop the price but as long as current numbers dont drop why should they? Its not about selling the most units at the expense of profits on.  Its about cutting expenses and increasing revenue for the ultimate goal: as much profit as possible.  Software royalties is another thing entirely but you can be damn sure whether a pricedrop is coming or not is decided by people who knows alot about consumer behaviour and attachment rates than you and i do. 

well it seems like those people made the right choice, if what i read from the first comment to my post is true.