Well, Solid Snake is the star of Metal Gear. The franchise wouldn't simply exist without him.

1) im not talking about removing him...

2) the only reason that bothered me and the reason why it bothered many people was exactly what you said, there no more reasons to be bothered with him.

3) i thought you already said that before, but anyway i respect your opinion, i just liked MGS3 more.

Not talking about you, but I've always thought that what people disliked wasn't that someone else was the main character, but rather, the bishonen aspect of Raiden. I think someone that resembled Snake more would have caused less uproar.

Of course, Codec Convos with Rose didn't help, either.

MGS3 is my second favorite game ever and superior to 2 in every way to me ESPECIALLY story

I liked the plot, but it felt too much like a James Bond movie at times, and it was disconnected a bit from the rest of the Metal Gear Solid games in the sense that it did not explain Big Boss' downfall, but rather, simply highlighted the origins of The Patriots and Ocelot (which would subsequently be explained in more detail in Peace Walker and now MGS5). MGS3 is the only MGS game that makes me not wanna punch Big Boss in the face, so kudos for it.

Gameplay was ace, but Konami contrived some things I did not like; for example: camouflage. Changing costumes in PS2 was a boring, long affair. It all got fixed in MGS4 thanks to the octocamo.

Boss fights are MILES better than MGS2. That's the only thing I'd really put MGS3 over MGS2.

hmmm ok, yeah i remember part of that "controversy", but i never paid much attention to it since it never bothered me, i just heard more people complaining about not being able to play as snake.

but yeah i kind of remember that the president grabed raidens... balls to confirm if he was a man or not. which i must admit was really funny to me, and i never got the codec convos with rose... but i am going to replay all the games before MGS V comes out, i have the PS3 complete HD collection and havent played it yet, so im gonna try and get the codec to see what its about.

I love MGS2. In terms of gameplay I think it's better than 3. The story however is the weakest. it's just too much. The bosses were also the worst in the series. Only Vamp out of Dead Cell was interesting and his fight wasn't that good (Solidus was pretty good though).

It's got my favorite boss battles of any game ever tbh so we agree on that.  I prefer the camo over 4's because I'm into that strategic kinda stuff.  The story is great for people into the series overall but keeps it simple enough to understand without getting too far out in left field for little end result (MGS2 AND MGS4).  I think it's miles deeper with better characters and development than any James Bond movie.  2 had great improvements in gameplay and I wouldn't have minded them switching protagonists (like in MGS3 obviously) but Raiden was very unlikeable to me he just whined and whined and stripped and cartwheeled and then whined some more.  I could not like him but some do so whatever.

All that matters here.

I think its actually surpassed Suikoden 2 as my favourite all time videogame. Its so close between them both, Im not sure what Id choose anymore.

Not really. It was easily the best Zelda game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2MntopG924