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Nuvendil said:
mii-gamer said:

Nothing japanese about two japanese men bowing in a japanese manner with japanese inspired music playing in the background. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7uJp25BlE

Not at all japanese

Wow, I forgot about that infomercial.  Too bad that attitude and diverse image didn't last long in their marketing material.  Wii could have been both a financial success and helped build a stronger Nintendo and Wii brand.  But alas, instead we entered the Wii U with...this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbGJieRaH0 and worse...this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbeQeiwW9o *shudders*.  Seriously, what the heck happened?

Whoever Nintendo has hired to manage their marketing needs to go. The marketing during the early wii years was brilliant. Nowadays, its abysmal at best.



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mii-gamer said:
oniyide said:
the_dengle said:
oniyide said:

No they appealed because of the wiimote. Nothing japanese about that. Hell outside of Nintendo there werent that much Japanese games that did gangbusters in the west anway. So im not sure where you are getting that from.

Wii would like to play


nothing Japanese about that

Nothing japanese about two japanese men bowing in a japanese manner with japanese inspired music playing in the background. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7uJp25BlE

Not at all japanese


yeah so what? could have been two black guys talking to the family instead. THe point of the advertisment was fun for the family. There is NOTHING Japanese about that message



I really hope you're kidding.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Third party is the problem. Most people follow the third party.

Nintendo will not thrive on third-party, regardless what they do. EA announced to support WiiU big time - and what happened? WiiU got pretty good support from Activision and Ubisoft at the start - and what happened? No, getting third-party with their usual multiplats on board is no solution (at least not alone). Special cooperations like Hyrule Warriors proved to be much more successful.



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mii-gamer said:
Nuvendil said:
mii-gamer said:

Nothing japanese about two japanese men bowing in a japanese manner with japanese inspired music playing in the background. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7uJp25BlE

Not at all japanese

Wow, I forgot about that infomercial.  Too bad that attitude and diverse image didn't last long in their marketing material.  Wii could have been both a financial success and helped build a stronger Nintendo and Wii brand.  But alas, instead we entered the Wii U with...this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dbGJieRaH0 and worse...this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsbeQeiwW9o *shudders*.  Seriously, what the heck happened?

Whoever Nintendo has hired to manage their marketing needs to go. The marketing during the early wii years was brilliant. Nowadays, its abysmal at best.


I think it is one of two things (or a combination):  1) their western marketing guys just suck at their jobs.  Or 2) everything gets filtered through Japan and someone there sucks at their job/doesn't understand the west at all.  What's baffling though is that Nintendo does good with marketing pressence in Japan; I mean, they are everywhere over there.  But hey, things are improving.  The latest Smash ad (not the live action one), the Bayonetta 2 ad, and the Hyrule Warriors ads were a very big step up from the previous ones.  What's lacking are console commercials.



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Soundwave said:

Nintendo's next console won't be x86 based. I would bet $100 on it.

It will be an ARM mobile CPU (v8) and an AMD low-power (consumption) mobile part which will allow for Wii U quality graphics (perhaps with better lighting/shader effects and more RAM) on a handheld. The home version will be the same chip overclocked with more CPU/GPU cores and more RAM for 1080p play at home.

Even on the GameCube ... Nintendo had most of the same third party games as the XBox and PS2 ... it just didn't help. That audience is owned by Sony/MS, there's not a lot Nintendo can do to win them back.

They need a way to expand their appeal in a different way.

The Avengers *are* more popular than COD. Marvel's IP is the holy grail of appealing to just about every imaginable demographic. No one has made a game for this IP with any care, the way Batman has gotten with the Arkham franchise. Enter Nintendo.

I agree on every part. Yes ARM makes much more sense than x86. I think it's even possible PS5 is ARM-based.

Yes, getting third-parties with their usual multiplats on board doesn't help Nintendo. WiiU is the best proof, it had in the beginning pretty much all major multiplats.

And I also agree Marvel-stuff can be a chance. A good cooperation can work wonders for Nintendo, look at the relative success of Hyrule Warriors.

I for once fully agree with you.



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oniyide said:
mii-gamer said:

Nothing japanese about two japanese men bowing in a japanese manner with japanese inspired music playing in the background. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p7uJp25BlE

Not at all japanese


yeah so what? could have been two black guys talking to the family instead. THe point of the advertisment was fun for the family. There is NOTHING Japanese about that message

Just admit your wrong dude and it wasn't simply about family, which tells me you are poorly informed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKZH9FtCcJQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xFgoGhQz0I

Wii Would Like To Play campaign effectively marketed the brand new experience that the Wii offered. An exotic and excting japanese product that can be enjoyed by the west. The Japanese themes used in these commercials are quite delibrate, hence why it is recurring throughout each commercial. Are you going to dismiss that as well?



Yeah, the Japanese image is definitely intentional. The West has a history of being drawn to things perceived as exotic or foreign; this is historical fact. So Nintendo using that to their advantage is deliberate.



Fusioncode said:
Get 3rd party support. Some crappy Marvel licensed game isn't going to do anything. Design a machine built for 3rd party support. Then do everything you can to convince 3rd parties to come on board. And when that fails just throw money at them. Then keep throwing money until the problem goes away. This is how the industry works.

No but seriously, get 3rd parties on board. You can't do that then you're fucked.

Basically this, if Nintendo can get Fifa 15 on Wii but not on Wii U, there is some serious issues that Nintendo still hasn't fixed yet regarding 3rdt Party Support.



Yeah, why not. Licensed Disney games worked so well for THQ.