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MDX said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Nintendo makes more money than Sony because the other failing branches of Sony hurt their profits in the gaming realm. Sonys only baggage in the gaming realm is the PSV.

I think Nintendo made more profit than Sony's gaming division (220 vs 200).  So not including Sony's other branches.

Sony might be selling more consoles, but Nintendo sells more first party games.

 

 


They did outsell Sony but it was only by what like 20 million? It was like 220 M vs 200 m in profit. Problem is Sony lost another billion due to weak outside parts of the company so its almost like it never mattered. Its such a sad direction to go in for such a pivotal company in electronics history.



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Market their games well...



Nothing anymore.



Third Party!

An exclusive title coming from a disney or marvel property will cost 100x more then its actual worth.

Again third party support, relevant hardware and a more age neutral image. They need to rebrand themselves.



Deeds said:

Fusioncode said:
Get 3rd party support. Some crappy Marvel licensed game isn't going to do anything. Design a machine built for 3rd party support. Then do everything you can to convince 3rd parties to come on board. And when that fails just throw money at them. Then keep throwing money until the problem goes away. This is how the industry works.

No but seriously, get 3rd parties on board. You can't do that then you're fucked.

So why is Nintendo making more money than Sony? Is it magic?


1. Its the norm to make a loss when a console launches (as Nintendo did), the cost involed are huge. The fact Sony made a profit at all just shows how well the PS4 managed to do. 

2. 3DS is responsible for most of their profit and when we're talking about the necessity of 3rd party support we're discussing homeconsoles. Name 1 home console that has done V well without third party support? 



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teigaga said:
Deeds said:

Fusioncode said:
Get 3rd party support. Some crappy Marvel licensed game isn't going to do anything. Design a machine built for 3rd party support. Then do everything you can to convince 3rd parties to come on board. And when that fails just throw money at them. Then keep throwing money until the problem goes away. This is how the industry works.

No but seriously, get 3rd parties on board. You can't do that then you're fucked.

So why is Nintendo making more money than Sony? Is it magic?


1. Its the norm to make a loss when a console launches (as Nintendo did), the cost involed are huge. The fact Sony made a profit at all just shows how well the PS4 managed to do. 

2. 3DS is responsible for most of their profit and when we're talking about the necessity of 3rd party support we're discussing homeconsoles. Name 1 home console that has done V well without third party support?

1) Nintendo made more money than Sony's gaming division.

2) N64 and Wii. They both printed money like the Bank of Japan.

3) 3DS is responsible for most of Nintendo's profits? Any proof? What about all the money Mario Kart 8 printed?



Mnementh said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Third party is the problem. Most people follow the third party.

Nintendo will not thrive on third-party, regardless what they do. EA announced to support WiiU big time - and what happened? WiiU got pretty good support from Activision and Ubisoft at the start - and what happened? No, getting third-party with their usual multiplats on board is no solution (at least not alone). Special cooperations like Hyrule Warriors proved to be much more successful.

Context. No one wanted to play those 3rd party games on the Wii U when the system added nothing of percieved value (A map on the Gamepad is not percieved value), infact in same cases performance were reportedly worse on Wii U.  Again the hardware was at fault.

Paying attention to history you'll see that Nintendo home consoles haver never thrived off 1st party alone. That is a myth constantly being perpetuated by Nintendo fans for some strange reason. They make profit but the  closest we have to that was the wii which had TONS of third party support, but mostly sold of off wii sports, Wii fit and MK wii.



I think (this will probably wont work) that nintendo should have strong connections within the anime industry.

They could use the story in animes to make into a game (with western visuals).

Examples:
- Attack on titan ( have the gameplay with you flying around with those stings, and killing huge monsters)

-Mirai nikki (have that 'hunger games' style gameplay, like choosing which phone you would have and vs opponents + online; you know if you've watched it)


Lol yeah, this was like some idea i thought in a while.



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Jranation said:
I think (this will probably wont work) that nintendo should have strong connections within the anime industry.

They could use the story in animes to make into a game (with western visuals).

Examples:
- Attack on titan ( have the gameplay with you flying around with those stings, and killing huge monsters)

-Mirai nikki (have that 'hunger games' style gameplay, like choosing which phone you would have and vs opponents + online; you know if you've watched it)



Lol yeah, this was like some idea i thought in a while.



Deeds said:
teigaga said:

1. Its the norm to make a loss when a console launches (as Nintendo did), the cost involed are huge. The fact Sony made a profit at all just shows how well the PS4 managed to do. 

2. 3DS is responsible for most of their profit and when we're talking about the necessity of 3rd party support we're discussing homeconsoles. Name 1 home console that has done V well without third party support?

1) Nintendo made more money than Sony's gaming division.

2) N64 and Wii. They both printed money like the Bank of Japan.

3) 3DS is responsible for most of Nintendo's profits? Any proof? What about all the money Mario Kart 8 printed?


1) Yes, I know and thats why I said comparing the profits of a newly launched system versus a system thats been out for a while is nonsensical. Launches are expensive and very little money if any is traditional made on hardware. Again refer back to the 3DS and Wii U's lauch.

2) Wii had a tons of third party support, a high selling system and third party support are always synonymous. Although I'm sure the 64 was profitable, how did you distinguish the revenue Nintendo made from that n64 versus the Gameboy which had much higher uptake.

3) 3DS Hardware sales >>> Wii U. 3DS profit margins >>>> Wii U. 3DS Software sales in 2014 >>> Wii U. Why would this be up for debate?

Wii U has had one big software hit this year (MK8) and then hardware which only started selling at a profit from early summer.