True, a strong library does help, however the 7th gen saw publishers pretty much killed that option with multiplatform games (think back to ps2 - it had a strong lead time and had exclusives because there was no other console for a while). As you say, there is a line Nintendo could aim for, but they won't bother mainly due to CEO arrogance and a personnal hate of 3rd party Western games (remember the N64 had great Western games eg. Perfect Dark or Conkers Bad Fur Day) as well as the bizzare Japanese idea that companies must sit on money rather than invest it.

This reminds me of someone who said Pokken fighter would make the Wii U outsell the PS4. I thought he had to be joking, but it turned out he was serious.

Again Microsoft is targeting the same audience as Sony. If you own a PS4 why the heck would you buy an Xbox One? What is this must have game that people have to get on the Xbox One that they can't play on the PC or PS4?

"Introduced June 2014"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiibo

Smash won't disrupt the market any more than it did for the Gamecube and N64; this is simply not how market disruption works. If a title was to achieve something like that based on merits such as lifetime sales and attach rate (which has nothing to do with disruption either btw) then surely Mario Kart 8 would be the big potato here. Releasing yet another title in a long-running series with the exact same mechanics and core components will accomplish nothing in the way of disruption and, frankly, I thought that much was common knowledge for almost anyone who has an account in here today. It is painfully clear that you don't understand what disruption is and how it works, it sounds like the perfect deus ex machina for the Wii U's dire situation but it is quite simply an impossibility since the Wii U was never designed as a disruptive product at a base level.

Amiibos? NFC devices? A market that is already developed and thriving almost solely as a mobile/smart device all over the industrialized world? How will that happen? And wouldn't Disney Infinity and Skylanders already have disrupted the gaming market if NFC was the next big thing? The best selling Disney Infinity on Wii sold about 1.2 million on a console notorious for having a large casual userbase and which actually disrupted the market as a platform. Same goes for Skylanders; it is all been there done that, how will this revitalize the Wii U when it wasn't even that successful on the majorly popular Wii? This makes absolutely zero sense. Look at how Wii Sports Club (likely around or below 150k lifetime), Wii Fit U (slightly above 400k), Just Dance (about 300k) and similar titles are selling on the Wii U for a reality check of who the core customer base is compared to the Wii phenomenon.

"People are on the PS4 train" is a type of comment that always makes me laugh since it is more often than not said by fans of the Wii, which sold primarily on; you guess it, hype! When the Wii was the "it" console, this was brilliant strategy (it really was) and well deserved but now that tables have turned and the PS4 is the "it" console, consumers are stupid and have poor taste and the same goes for Sony.

How is 2015 looking better than 2014? They have something bigger than the combined might of Mario Kart, Smash Brothers and Donkey Kong coming? Zelda alone cannot carry the brunt of 2015's major software and the likes of Yoshi and Kirby were never as big, same goes for Metroid, Starfox and pretty much everything else they've had up their sleeve. Nintendo have quite simply painted themselves into a corner with the whole Wii U situation and they severely underestimated the extended development time needed for HD titles since they remained one gen behind hardware-wise in the 7th gen.

"well i believe you want xone to be second the reality is that thats not going to happen and microsoft will close that division once and for all."

Imagine that, sole subscription to reality (I know another user who uses phrases and wording such as that). And what are the signs of this becoming reality? If losing money was the main catalyst for such a thing; surely they would have killed the 360 prematurely since the whole RROD, disc-scratch and HDD errors cost them well above 1 billion dollars, not to mention bad publicity. We've seen MS actually taking steps and trying to improve their sales since they released the One (and they made tremendous efforts with the 360) and we've also seen MS just come off of a quarter posting 5.6 billion dollars in profits and recently been estimated to have the third highest market cap on the globe, which means that they have probably weighed the arguments for and against many times already and found that the company is doing so well overall and the Xbox investments have been so big already that it is simply worth it to try to carve out a position in what is still a very important market in the highest grossing part of the modern entertainment industry. It is their very struggle that proves that they are in it to stay; at the very least for the 8th gen.
This whole "MS will leave the race, Nintendo will disrupt the market again" nonsense is the only truly wishful thinking I've seen in this thread so far and going so far as to claim that you are sitting on "the reality" is utterly ridiculous.

Introduced, not launched.  When you launch a product it's available to purchase and use.

I'm willing to put my account on the line and say Xbox One 100% will take the 2nd place with Wii U distant 3rd.

I don't get how it can be thought of other wise.

Kinda boring though, all three console makers have their slot in almost certain lockdown.

Wow @ that poll results, neck and neck. I look forward to this thread being future bumped

So sony will get 90% of sales and XB1 10%? Except that hasn't happened and isn't happening.

This excuse is trotted out all the time but doesn't explain how MS have sold more XB1's in 11 months than Nintendo have WiiU's in 23.

Contry to what you think, the only thing PS4 has over XB1 is slightly better multiplat graphics and good word of mouth, you and others make out like it's some gulf of difference between the two.

And now, Microsoft go into the holiday with a price advantage, more bundles, and more exclusives. That might be why somebody would want a XB1 over a PS4.

Everytime a relevant multiplatform comes out, XOne sales jump. So far, the console has sold more than 6 million. Go ask them.

Yeah, I couldn't believe it either. I mean, sure people have been using niche games like HyWa, and Bayo to justify their predictions, but Pokken fighter? That's niche beyond anything I can fathom.

Someone quote this post when Pokken fighter causes the Wii U's baseline to double.