Hiku said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
Hiku said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
It won't ever take 2nd place, even with discounts etc.
The reason being the huge movement of causal gamers to mobile along with a very, very limited game base. If you see all the recent sales, big multiplats sell consoles well, and they come out every few weeks. However 1st party games come out rarely and few people are now interested in Nintendo games so it will struggle to sell. Also as more people become accustom to 8th gen graphics and gaming mechanics, the WiiU will just start to look older and dated.
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The casual gamers were never part of the equation. I'm well aware of that situation. I was refering to things like a substantial price drop, bigger memory than 32gb, and first and foremost getting many more third party developers on board (aka paying them money). But I just don't think they're going to invest that much money into this.
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Casual gamers were certainly part of the equation - they made up a huge market base which has now left consoles and some consoles eg WiiU are seeing the effects of this. The points you made are valid, but even if they do all of them, why would someone buy the WiiU over the PS4 or xbone? If you can afford to pay $60 per game, then why would you go for the cheaper console as your wallet would be able to afford the more powerful and more pricey console?
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Sorry, when I said never part of the equation, I meant in my post about Wii U and what Nintendo can do about it's situation. I guess I should have been more clear, but I though by mentioning that "I'm well aware of that situation" would make it clear what I meant.
I wasn't counting on them to help the Wii U's sales to begin with, so I tried to point out why it wasn't a counter argument to my post. I hope that makes it more clear. lol
As for your current question about chosing a weaker console over a more powerful one, I think there are factors that can outweigh that. Having a strong library, and many exclusives are very important. PS2 was the weakest of the three consoles that generation, but became the most successful home console ever.
Say hypothetically that Nintendo have infinite money, and they buy every exclusive that's currently on PS and XB, both 3rd party and 2st party, and sell their console for $1, then they would most likely win the console war.
And extreme example, but the question is where the line is drawn for what the minimum effort they need to invest in, in order for them to pass XB1. And I think that line is much higher than they can, or are willing to afford.
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True, a strong library does help, however the 7th gen saw publishers pretty much killed that option with multiplatform games (think back to ps2 - it had a strong lead time and had exclusives because there was no other console for a while). As you say, there is a line Nintendo could aim for, but they won't bother mainly due to CEO arrogance and a personnal hate of 3rd party Western games (remember the N64 had great Western games eg. Perfect Dark or Conkers Bad Fur Day) as well as the bizzare Japanese idea that companies must sit on money rather than invest it.
