But, it was not cheaper. Because that would mean that XOne had a price cut in June, and the consensus between XOne owners is that there was no price cut, only a release of a different SKU.

So, it seems that PS4 sold better because people failed to recognize the magnificent value Kinect brought into their living rooms.

Joking aside, it is well established that price had nothing to do with it, PS4 was and is just a better product, offering a superior experience for fans of video games.

We now know the problem was not Kinect, we know the problem was not the price, the problem was not the games.... The problem is XOne itself, an inferior product able to attract only a niche audience residing in a specific geographic area, and fans of few exclusive franchises...

Wow that was a pretty immature thing to say. Did you ever stop to think that maybe English is not his native language? Always a better way to word things my friend.

first: i dont spacing out my posts. its this wired side called vgc doing it automatically if u use enter.

second: stop spreading lies. i never said ps4 isnt region free. i only said it is worse in the region free comparison to the xb1 (and it is. thats a fact)

third: stop using ur own opion as fact. u brought up the ps4 controller. thats total subjetive if u prefer battery or akku

bold: being personal. wow great job

last: my 4 objetively points still stand valid. u just bring in false information, act like i said thing i never did and bring subjective opinions.

ofc it isnt

would be horrible, if i would be that bad on my native language

(beside me not using any ', or many punctuatuion marks because being lazy)

I can see the XOne edging the PS4 in November but the PS4 dominating December.

Pretty crazy to think that many of you even consider the fact that PS4 could win in US (because nobody has a doubt for the rest of the world for those holidays).

But Sony has still announced nothing for the US, when they have already announced a good deal of bundles in Europe with White/black Far Cry 4 bundle, GTAV bundle and LBP3 bundle. they'll probably do some price cut of their own.

It's like they were waiting for Microsoft deals before stating theirs. But whatever they do (which bundle at what price), until now their strategy with notably Watch_Dogs and Destiny was flawless.

I think with both the pricing and the bundles Xb one has a better than even chance of winning November NPD, and a less than even chance of winning December NPD. No word from Sony about and holiday pricing, but I don't think they'll care too much if they don't win NPD for November. They've possibly already written November off in the USA as requiring unjustifible financial sacrifices to counter MS's kitchen sink efforts.

Nope, 50 $ cut is not enough.

360 needed about a 200$ price advantage, X1 is no 360 and lacks such a massive price differential. We already seen such drastic action with the X1, all failed each time.

i think it will be close but Microsoft will still be behind the PS4

Agreed. But at this point every signs shows us that the demand for the PS4 is far bigger, and it even outmatches the X1 demand in the US.

MS is playing agressive this Q4 and they have a genuine chance of winning both November and December. If that is the case and the fall will be managable in January, MS might have a fighting chance left in the US.

On the other hand, if Sony wins this Q4 by a large margin in the US, massive hits like Halo 5 and Gears 4 are way to far off, for MS be able to turn the tide. If the trend continues, by next year both in the US and especially on a global scale, the PS4 will become the de-facto console of this generation.

And people taught that this gen will be boring console war wise

It is already that, its been that since both launched.  There is no turning public perception about PS4/X1 so and trend turning is just not going to happen.