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Vena said:

Yes, you used it incorrectly however because its telling you how reviewers grade their games based on the right scale.

I am using the scale that they used. Destiny was graded using the right scale, not the left one. Therefore when looking at its score, its the right we use to analyze the score. Don't believe me? Look at how meta critic tiers its coloring scheme, where does yellow pop up? Hint: Its not at 5, its at 75, thats because Metacritic and all reviewers use the right scale and when you analyze the score you must also use the right scale.

What your image is trying to say, and what you're failing to realize in your ongoing fight with windmills, is that critics and metacritic should use the left scale where everything is clearly cut and scaled properly. But they do not. They should but don't. Its not saying that you should use the left scale irregardless because that makes no sense. You can't just change scales after the fact, thats a post-preori non-starter and one that will get you kicked out of any statistics class. Whatever the basis is set as apriori is the basis you have to use post-preori, and the whole point of the graphic was to make you aware of the fact that reviewers review based on the right side and not the left. Reviewers inflate their scores.

Destiny was rated based on the right scale. You cannot use the left scale. Simple as that.

No you are using it incorrectly lol

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OMG!!!

 

I used the image to show you how wrong you are using the scale... instead to read "game reviews" read "Vena"... it is a example... I posted it lol

It is laughable come here and say in a public forum 7-8 is AVERAGE... please stop to shame yourself.



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ethomaz said:

You are wrong too... average is 5-6... C is 5-6.

1 = TERRIBLE (1-2) = E 
2 = BAD (3-4) = D
3 = AVERAGE (5-6) = C
4 = GOOD (7-8) = B
5 = GREAT (9-10) = A

thats just ur personal table

 

and what about f? doenst exist?

and average is the same range like great? 10% for average and 10% for great?

 

thats not how it works



ethomaz said:

No you are using it incorrectly lol

Quite the contrary, I am not using it incorrectly. I am in fact using it as it should be used given the fact that reviewers use the right scale when grading, that is simply how it works and what the image is trying to tell you. You genuinely do not seem to grasp this very fact.

You are trying to apply a personal table where it does not belong.

Please stop this, you're making a fool of yourself.



prinz_valium said:

thats just ur personal table

 

and what about f? doenst exist?

and average is the same range like great? 10% for average and 10% for great?

 

thats not how it works

F?

I can add a F to scale but it will be decimal because you will have 10/6 or 5/6... so you have decimal conversions in the scale.



Vena said:

Quite the contrary, I am not using it incorrectly. I am in fact using it as it should be used given the fact that reviewers use the right scale when grading, that is simply how it works and what the image is trying to tell you. You genuinely do not seem to grasp this very fact.

You are trying to apply a personal table where it does not belong.

Please stop this, you're making a fool of yourself.

Again... it is look like grinding against a wall.

5-6 is avarage is corret scale.

You are just shaming yourself saying 7-8 is average.



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ethomaz said:

Again... it is look like grinding against a wall.

5-6 is avarage is corret scale.

You are just shaming yourself saying 7-8 is average.


Look. Let me explain this one step at a time:

5-6 to is average on the LEFT scale when grading is weighed correctly.

BUT

Reviewes use the RIGHT scale when grading, they inflate their scores.

SO

On the RIGHT scale, since we've had to adjust what the grade means due to inflation, a 7 is average.

IF

Reviewers graded based on the LEFT scale it would be above average to good.

BUT

Reviewers do not grade based on the LEFT scale, they grade based on the RIGHT scale.

SO

A 77 is average.



Vena said:

Look. Let me explain this one step at a time:

5-6 to is average on the LEFT scale when grading is weighed correctly.

BUT

Reviewes use the RIGHT scale when grading, they inflate their scores.

SO

On the RIGHT scale, since we've had to adjust what the grade means due to inflation, a 7 is average.

IF

Reviewers graded based on the LEFT scale it would be above average to good.

BUT

Reviewers do not grade based on the LEFT scale, they grade based on the RIGHT scale.

SO

A 77 is average.

Stop please... the example was made last gen to say the reviewers are giving just 9 and 10 to games... they stoped and changed after a lot of complains.

I used the image to show you are soing the same wrong thing the reviews did for years.

The right table IS YOU... the left table is the CORRECT.

77 is GOOD.



ethomaz said:

prinz_valium said:

thats just ur personal table

 

and what about f? doenst exist?

and average is the same range like great? 10% for average and 10% for great?

 

thats not how it works

F?

if 1-2 is E

what score would be F

 

edit: lol nvm us only use a-d and f for everything below. in germany we got 6 grades

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_the_United_States

 

Percentage Letter Grade Percentage Common Meaning Numeric Grade
90-100 A 94-100 Excellent 4.0
80-89 B 87-93 Good 3.0
70-79 C 80-86 Average 2.0
60-69 D 75-79 Below Average 1.0
0-59 F 0-74 Failing 0

 

but they still use f for anyting below 60%

u use it just for the lowest 20%



cpg716 said:

 

There are several things wrong here..

Activision/Bungie announced 325 million sold through for Destiny.. That is sold to customers..     That was in the first 5 days alone.. that equals 5.5 million...  

So.. You are arong on the current sales.. and what it will do... It exceeded 5.5 million in the first 5 days..    and is likely at 6-7 million by now..   

Second..   Mario Kart will NOT sell 5 mil by 2014. It won't even do 2.5 million..  (now this is my opinion)..     So it will be probably 2 million vs 9 million of Destiny by end of 2014..  No way a game on on system with less then 10 million consoles sold worldwide.. will outsell most HYPED game of 2014 that is in consoles totalling over 150 million..  (PS4, X1, X360, PS3)


I haven't gone through the whole thread to see if anyone pointed this out but you have several wrong things as well.

 First off, the 325 million sold through doesn't directly equate to 5.5 million, you're not taking in to account the Speacial/Legendary or whatever they are called editions.

 Secondly Mario Kart 8 is already way over 2 million.

 Third this is only for Destiny PS4 vs Mario Kart 8, not all of the Destiny's combined.



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prinz_valium said:

if 1-2 is E

what score would be F

 

edit: lol nvm us only use a-d and f for everything below. in germany we got 6 grades

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_the_United_States

 

Percentage Letter Grade Percentage Common Meaning Numeric Grade
90-100 A 94-100 Excellent 4.0
80-89 B 87-93 Good 3.0
70-79 C 80-86 Average 2.0
60-69 D 75-79 Below Average 1.0
0-59 F 0-74 Failing 0

 

but they still use f for anyting below 60%

u use it just for the lowest 20%

US uses a 1-10 scales where F (FAIL) means 1-6.

It is like that:

1 = F
2 = F
3 = F
4 = F
5 = F
6 = F
7 = D
8 = C
9 = B
10 = A

It is a unproportional scale... in fact they use a 1-5 scale using a 1-10 scale... you have this scale:

1 = F
2 = D
3 = C
4 = B
5 = A

But they says 1-6 is F and after that you have the the scores right... so no score will give you less than 6 in US grade that means FAIL. If you look at the Numeric Grade they translate to 0, 1, 2, 3 and 4 (the same than 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5).

The review score is a proportional scale.

That is why some US guys thinks 7-8 is average... because their scale starts on 6.

1-5 Grade 1-10 Grade US Grade Sumary
1 1-2 F (1-6) TERRIBLE
2 3-4 D (7) BAD
3 5-6 C (8) AVERAGE
4 7-8 B (9) GOOD
5 9-10 A (10) GREAT

That what @Vena can't understand but it is the education system in US that didn't explain that to them... so I don't blame him.

BTW the review scale is not exam where you need to make over 59% of it to pass.