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what do you think?

Wii u will sell more than 40m 123 31.95%
 
Wii u wont make it to 25m 163 42.34%
 
Nintendo will release a n... 33 8.57%
 
Nintendo FTW!!! 66 17.14%
 
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tak13 said:
ICStats said:
Well it's trailing the GameCube, thus so far beating 21Mil would be a surprise.


Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake

Right, things are different now.  That's why you have to add reasoning to comparisons, something you always seem to ignore.

Even if a console is doing great now does not mean it will go on to beat a predecessor's sales.  And likewise, Wii U can still do worse than GC, or better if there are good reasons.

PS4 & XB1 are easier to reason about.  In 6th gen, PS2 + Xbox had sales of around 175 Million, mostly dominated by PS2.  In 7th gen, XB360 gained market acceptance, so PS3 & 360 have almost a 50:50 split.  The consoles are at 166 Million and counting.  Japanese home console market shrunk, while others grew a little.  In 8th gen we can see PS4 gaining market share, XB1 losing market share, but not to the extent of PS2:XB.  The Japanese market continues to shrink.  That's why most folks think PS2 > PS4 > PS3 and XB360 > XB1 > XB.  This idea could change in the future.

The Wii U's market position is most closely compared to GC's ~21.7 Million market.  We can see that it has sold slower than GC for ~2 years, it has worse 3rd party support than GC, and it costs more than GC.  All reasons to expect it to underperform GC.

That doesn't mean it's certain Wii U will definitely sell less than GC; only there is a higher chance that it will sell less than GC.  This idea could also change in the future.



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tak13 said:
ICStats said:
Well it's trailing the GameCube, thus so far beating 21Mil would be a surprise.


Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake

Because WiiU has been out for longer and is closely related in terms of how it is doing. Until WiiU actually starts beating Gamecube numbers it's not going to beat it. Shouldn't even need explaining really.

You really need to just stop assuming things are going to go well for WiiU and look at A) all the evidence we have that it won't and B) the logic.



 

Seece said:
tak13 said:
ICStats said:
Well it's trailing the GameCube, thus so far beating 21Mil would be a surprise.


Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake

Because WiiU has been out for longer and is closely related in terms of how it is doing. Until WiiU actually starts beating Gamecube numbers it's not going to beat it. Shouldn't even need explaining really.

You really need to just stop assuming things are going to go well for WiiU and look at A) all the evidence we have that it won't and B) the logic.


you really stop to be certain and negative ;) seece which evidences,you re hasty?what i said to  iscstat it completely right , saying wii u will sell lower than gamecube because currently trails behind it ,automatically this mean that ps4 will outsell ps2 because it is selling more like xbone with xbox360(although xbox360 will lead soon)...it s  a fact !wait for wii uprice cuts!gamecube price cuts made in  2002 199-->149 and in 2003 149---99.....



tak13 said:
Seece said:
tak13 said:
ICStats said:
Well it's trailing the GameCube, thus so far beating 21Mil would be a surprise.


Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake

Because WiiU has been out for longer and is closely related in terms of how it is doing. Until WiiU actually starts beating Gamecube numbers it's not going to beat it. Shouldn't even need explaining really.

You really need to just stop assuming things are going to go well for WiiU and look at A) all the evidence we have that it won't and B) the logic.


you really stop to be certain and negative ;) seece which evidences,you re hasty?what i said to  iscstat it completely right , saying wii u will sell lower than gamecube because currently trails behind it ,automatically this mean that ps4 will outsell ps2 because it is selling more like xbone with xbox360(although xbox360 will lead soon)...it s  a fact !wait for wii uprice cuts!gamecube price cuts made in  2002 199-->149 and in 2003 149---99.....

Evidence? The last 22 months. That's what evidence.

And no, we don't have enough data to compare PS4 to PS2. I told you. WiiU has been out long enough and has been following the same trend the entire time.



 

Seece said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:
tak13 said:
ICStats said:
Well it's trailing the GameCube, thus so far beating 21Mil would be a surprise.


Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake

Because WiiU has been out for longer and is closely related in terms of how it is doing. Until WiiU actually starts beating Gamecube numbers it's not going to beat it. Shouldn't even need explaining really.

You really need to just stop assuming things are going to go well for WiiU and look at A) all the evidence we have that it won't and B) the logic.


you really stop to be certain and negative ;) seece which evidences,you re hasty?what i said to  iscstat it completely right , saying wii u will sell lower than gamecube because currently trails behind it ,automatically this mean that ps4 will outsell ps2 because it is selling more like xbone with xbox360(although xbox360 will lead soon)...it s  a fact !wait for wii uprice cuts!gamecube price cuts made in  2002 199-->149 and in 2003 149---99.....

Evidence? The last 22 months. That's what evidence.

And no, we don't have enough data to compare PS4 to PS2. I told you. WiiU has been out long enough and has been following the same trend the entire time.

seece Germany's official sales are 350k till august...vgcharts had it at 200k till december of 2013...this means that have sold 150k(double difference with your favorite console ytd and ltd) in the 8 months of 2014!so its close to the sales of the previous 13months and this happens to the whole world...!you are denying that wii u selling better so yoy?if yes...for god's sake,because even now that fell ,it keeps selling double...!let see who is right in the end of 2014 ;)



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tak13 said:
Seece said:

Evidence? The last 22 months. That's what evidence.

And no, we don't have enough data to compare PS4 to PS2. I told you. WiiU has been out long enough and has been following the same trend the entire time.

seece Germany's official sales are 350k till august...vgcharts had it at 200k till december of 2013...this means that have sold 150k(double difference with your favorite console ytd and ltd) in the 8 months of 2014!so its close to the sales of the previous 13months and this happens to the whole world...!you are denying that wii u selling better so yoy?if yes...for god's sake,because even now that fell ,it keeps selling double...!let see who is right in the end of 2014 ;)

What has "my favourite console" got to do with anything? Watch your posts.

I never said it wasn't up YOY? That isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about tracking below Gamecube, it still is. Either stay on topic and provide relevent discussion or don't bother.



 

Thanks for the revelation.



AZWification said:

Well, drake is known for being VERY positive when it comes to these predictions..

If that's what you want to call it.



Seece said:
tak13 said:
Seece said:

Evidence? The last 22 months. That's what evidence.

And no, we don't have enough data to compare PS4 to PS2. I told you. WiiU has been out long enough and has been following the same trend the entire time.

seece Germany's official sales are 350k till august...vgcharts had it at 200k till december of 2013...this means that have sold 150k(double difference with your favorite console ytd and ltd) in the 8 months of 2014!so its close to the sales of the previous 13months and this happens to the whole world...!you are denying that wii u selling better so yoy?if yes...for god's sake,because even now that fell ,it keeps selling double...!let see who is right in the end of 2014 ;)

What has "my favourite console" got to do with anything? Watch your posts.

I never said it wasn't up YOY? That isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about tracking below Gamecube, it still is. Either stay on topic and provide relevent discussion or don't bother.

i provided relavant discussion and i ll repeat:
Not again!this is wrong!why comparing sales of the current console with the predecessor or even worse with you predecessor's predecessor,to predict its sales?with that logic,ps4 which dominates ps2 will sell more than ps2 and xbone which dominates xbox360 will sell more than xbox360..for god's sake!i m allowed to not accept the argument of wii u gc comparison ;)  don t bother?then why you quote me?...end of discussion



NintendoPie said:
AZWification said:

Well, drake is known for being VERY positive when it comes to these predictions..

If that's what you want to call it.

How you would call it then? I'm very curious!



                
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