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QuintonMcLeod said:

I'd rather take this woman's word over the opinions of that article's author. At least this woman's video is much more researched. This also comes from a feminist.

http://youtu.be/9MxqSwzFy5w


Ah, Christina is trully a great lady and one of the greatest advocates of First Wave Feminism when it was about equality, instead of modern Feminazism.



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SlayerRondo said:
Playing mobile games a couple minutes a day does not compare to playing games like Uncharted or The Witcher.

I just don't see even close to half the people who go to the local gaming store being women.


This. If this many women were gaming I wouldn't have to go out of my way to seduce my GF's and then get them into play games if they want to spend more time with me. I've had to do it with over 5 women the sixth GF had a BF who did the job for me thankfully.



the_dengle said:
Soundwave said:

In Japan yeah I wouldn't be surprised if a bulk of Animal Crossing's players are female, but it's more socially acceptable to carry a handheld gaming device there if you're not a kid.

The DS was making some good inroads with women, but smartphones completely wiped that out here in the West. You wouldn't see a grown woman caught dead with a 3DS these days. Once girls get their first smart device, it's pretty much over for Nintendo. The fact that they can social network/Facebook/Twitter/listen to their favorite music/text message/Instagram on phones on top of playing games on it just kills anything Nintendo might offer in response. 

Maybe not a middle-aged woman, but I believe you're wrong if we're talking about the same 19-24 age range as Iwata.


Disagree I've never seen girls this age on a DS. What is funny though is the minute I tell women they can download emulators and show them how it's done they do play the games. They just don't want to be caught dead with a DS.



Soundwave said:

Outside of a comic book convention I've never seen a 17-24 year old girl with a 3DS. And I travel a ton, am in about 30-40 major airports a year. Not once. 

Iwata is talking about Animal Crossing numbers from Japan I believe btw. The demo split is not the same in North America, nor is Animal Crossing as popular in the West period. 

I've never been to a comic book convention and I've seen several ladies my age playing their 3DS. Keep in mind the 3DS doesn't have a particularly massive install base in the US, and half of that install base is quite young of course. You're unlikely to randomly see an adult (man or woman) playing their 3DS even if they do have one. Anyway, we all know that anecdotal evidence is not admissible in court, or on vgchartz.

Mobile devices are also very popular in Japan (see Puzzle & Dragons), so the 3DS faces no less competition there than in the West.



pictures.. it it that hard to ask for photographic evidence?

*also a picture of a female with a computerscreen with vgchartz displayed would also be welcome.. still don't believe that they are on this site



 

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Soundwave said:
Rafux said:
More bullshit, I wish we had more women playing video games I wish my wife could play something with me.


Women do play. They just don't play the types of games men think of when they think of video games. 

Candy Crush, Tetris, Farmville, Angry Birds, etc. etc. etc. 

Notice none of these games has a "main character" and they are puzzle/building type games. 

I think boys/men really gravitate to this concept, women just don't. 

I think this is maybe an inaccurate conclusion you made regarding women not liking character-driven games. I think women just tend not to enjoy the violence in core games as much, so they gravitate towards those other genres that don't involve shooting and killing things in bloody fashion. I do think women enjoy story-driven games, though. RPG's, I believe, have a higher percentage of women players compared to other core games, but I don't have the actual data to say for sure. It sure seems like it, though, from the number of players of Pokemon and Final Fantasy who are women, and I think there are a lot of female fans of BioWare games. Also, women like reading books which obviously is all about story. 



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Soundwave said:
Rafux said:
More bullshit, I wish we had more women playing video games I wish my wife could play something with me.


Women do play. They just don't play the types of games men think of when they think of video games. 

Candy Crush, Tetris, Farmville, Angry Birds, etc. etc. etc. 

Notice none of these games has a "main character" and they are puzzle/building type games. 

I think boys/men really gravitate to this concept, women just don't. 

I know that but those studies will count even my mother who very ocasionally play facebook trivia games.



the_dengle said:
Soundwave said:

Outside of a comic book convention I've never seen a 17-24 year old girl with a 3DS. And I travel a ton, am in about 30-40 major airports a year. Not once. 

Iwata is talking about Animal Crossing numbers from Japan I believe btw. The demo split is not the same in North America, nor is Animal Crossing as popular in the West period. 

I've never been to a comic book convention and I've seen several ladies my age playing their 3DS. Keep in mind the 3DS doesn't have a particularly massive install base in the US, and half of that install base is quite young of course. You're unlikely to randomly see an adult (man or woman) playing their 3DS even if they do have one. Anyway, we all know that anecdotal evidence is not admissible in court, or on vgchartz.

Mobile devices are also very popular in Japan (see Puzzle & Dragons), so the 3DS faces no less competition there than in the West.


I think we need to remember that Japan is still a very different culture than the US. The 3DS is different there in that it has basically replaced the home console, they don't have the PS4/XBox like we do here, the 3DS is basically that for the Japanese market. 

It's also not uncommon to see rows of adults reading fantasy/adventure comics on a Japanese train, that's something you won't see in any city in North America/Europe. 



Soundwave said:

I think we need to remember that Japan is still a very different culture than the US. The 3DS is different there in that it has basically replaced the home console, they don't have the PS4/XBox like we do here, the 3DS is basically that for the Japanese market. 

It's also not uncommon to see rows of adults reading fantasy/adventure comics on a Japanese train, that's something you won't see in any city in North America/Europe. 

There's a huge cultural difference before. And that's one of the reasons you can't take what you see at face value. Just because you don't see many people playing a 3DS in public, doesn't mean those people don't own a 3DS that they play in privacy.

My only point is that Nintendo has many games that appeal more or less equally to men and women, so they have a diverse fanbase.

Also, apparently this study is only about the American market, which is silly enough.



spiffiness said:
Soundwave said:
Rafux said:
More bullshit, I wish we had more women playing video games I wish my wife could play something with me.


Women do play. They just don't play the types of games men think of when they think of video games. 

Candy Crush, Tetris, Farmville, Angry Birds, etc. etc. etc. 

Notice none of these games has a "main character" and they are puzzle/building type games. 

I think boys/men really gravitate to this concept, women just don't. 

I think this is maybe an inaccurate conclusion you made regarding women not liking character-driven games. I think women just tend not to enjoy the violence in core games as much, so they gravitate towards those other genres that don't involve shooting and killing things in bloody fashion. I do think women enjoy story-driven games, though. RPG's, I believe, have a higher percentage of women players compared to other core games, but I don't have the actual data to say for sure. It sure seems like it, though, from the number of players of Pokemon and Final Fantasy who are women, and I think there are a lot of female fans of BioWare games. Also, women like reading books which obviously is all about story. 


I think there's some truth to it. Because there are plenty of "non violent" games like Rayman and LittleBigPlanet and so on that have no where near the success of Candy Crush with women. 

I think men/boys just take to the idea of wanting to live as a vicarious character much more than women do even outside of video games. 

Men/boys are far more obsessed with professional sports (even make believe ones like wrestling) in part because they idolize the athletes therein. Women appreciate sports, but generally don't get as hung up on that aspect as men do. Guys want to BE Michael Jordan or Tom Brady or Hulk Hogan. 

The idea of becoming a galactic bounty hunter or US black ops marine or jedi knight or convicted felon just out of prison or even just a blue hedgehog who runs real fast ... men/boys gravitate to these types of scenarios more than women do. 

I think women prefer games where they are the invisible protagonist (ie: controling the blocks in Candy Crush) rather than the traditional "you are character X, clear this stage, now onto the next stage/world which is more challenging".