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Slade6alpha said:

*rolls eyes*

You'd think you would get sick of that shtick of yours, but whatever. 

While they may have gotten the games right, console wise, they're still stuck in the past. 


Everything Microsoft has ever internally created has been overshadowed by everything they've purchased. Dont get mad, just prove me wrong (If I even am wrong). Its not a schtick, im just pointing out whats real.



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JazzB1987 said:
reggin_bolas said:
You mean we could have played Nintendo franchises on a true-HD device with standard third-party support and without the gimmicks? Dear lord, please turn back time.


First of all neither Xbox 360 nor Xbox One are true HD consoles. Go ask the PS4 it will tell you or better ask a PC what HD means (I had 1600x1200 gaming in 2003)

  Secondly. What is a gimmick?  A gimmick is something as higher resolution NOT something essential (for a new product) as Motion controls was for Wii.  Motion controls are the reason the Wii exists so its in no way a gimmick. Kinect is a gimmick because it was tacked on to an already existing system the 360 And on XBO it also ended up as gimmick because Microsoft dropped it.




Actually Sony's Move was the gimmick as it is a direct copy of wiimote. Kinect was an entirely new innovation to bring completely hands free motion controls. Re hd on Xbox one vs ps4 for hd comparison, we are talking nearly the same architecture albeit slightly faster ram on ps4.The difference graphics wise is getting increasingly smaller and will continue to do so. Most informed gamers hardly talk about this fact anymore. PC is a different story as you mention. PC is true hd.



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NobleTeam360 said:

Well I've never owned a Nintendo console and I've only owned a 3DS/ DS for a short while. So no I don't know what this supposed "Nintendo magic" is. Is it some sort of made up thing Nintendo fans use to justify Nintendo's lack of moving on from the 90's?

I'm a huge Nintendo fan. And what he's saying is completely true IMO. I've gamed on the SNES (was my friends'), N64, GC, Wii, Wii U, and all other handhelds and to me the games have all the polish, but they are on systems that are so far back in this day and age that it's sad. They just now implemented an online account. Games are still tied into the systems, granted they are working on something hopefully, but it's still 2014. No multi tasking, no voice chat, the games inside the virtual console are still lacking in release. Have they released anything from the N64 yet? Why do you think 3rd parties skip out on online? Another point that highlights the issues with the online. 

I enjoy the games on the systems, but there is no denying that the system itself is stuck in the past. 



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NobleTeam360 said:

Well I've never owned a Nintendo console and I've only owned a 3DS/ DS for a short while. So no I don't know what this supposed "Nintendo magic" is. Is it some sort of made up thing Nintendo fans use to justify Nintendo's lack of moving on from the 90's?


magic = nostalgia 



Just imagine how much innovation wouldn't exist today if that happened. But at least we'd get to see Mario's Mustache hairs if it did!



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mZuzek said:

There's no describing the "Nintendo magic", it just exists. You either feel it when you play their games or you don't.

Nintendo fans must be living in a really interesting world.

Wii U has a soul and now Nintendo has magic. :P

Sounds like a Nintendo cult xD



NobleTeam360 said:
mZuzek said:
NobleTeam360 said:

Nintendo magic? what is that actually? What would be wrong with a realistic Zelda? and I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't have a online network, I'm saying the network they currently have is a joke compared to PSN, XBL, and STEAM etc.....

I guess this closes off the argument. Each sentence here clearly shows you've no idea what makes Nintendo and their games special. I might be totally wrong, but based on this post it really sounds like you haven't played too much of their games in quite a long time.

Otherwise, you would know what Nintendo magic is and what's so wrong with a realistic Zelda. And yes, I do get that you're saying Nintendo Network is a joke compared to the other ones, but as I previously said, they're not PC wannabes like Xbox and PlayStation - their network works just fine for what the Wii U is (granted, not as useful on the 3DS).

Well I've never owned a Nintendo console and I've only owned a 3DS/ DS for a short while. So no I don't know what this supposed "Nintendo magic" is. Is it some sort of made up thing Nintendo fans use to justify Nintendo's lack of moving on from the 90's?


Nintendo magic is akin to what makes Disney so special for people all over the world. Its just translated to videogames. Sony and Microsoft cannot capture this because they do not aim to get into the imaginations of children and families everywhere. Nintendo does this in spades because its always been their goal. No one should buy them, but MS should be the last company to buy them on the list. It takes a massive amount of creative input and intent to own Nintendo because they dont just work to pump out products but deliver the best one possible and dont put constraints of time like MS to do it. Sony's developmental style is more akin to universal studios and also similar to Sony pictures.



Nintendo would have been in a better position, just like how Nintendo would be in a better position if they agreed to partner up with Sony back then.



Panama said:
Cobretti2 said:
Panama said:
Yeah I know right, how awful would it have been if they forced Nintendo to focus on the Kinect. Almost as bad as if they made them focus on an inaccurate motion controller or a low tech tablet...woops :^)


Wii Remote is only inaccurate cause of your short comings or bandly implemented controls by the dev (i.e waggle for sake of motion). Where the controls were implented well and you were not one of those retards who didn't know how to hold a n64 controller correctly  or you weren't a PS only gamer you were easily able to master a wii remote or any game controller for that matter.

If the wiimote was accurate then why ever bring out the Wiimotion plus accesory? Checkmate logic B)

Except there is more to the wiimote than just motion - the ir pointer is a pretty accurate (and useful) input.  So maybe you just had check....



reggin_bolas said:
You mean we could have played Nintendo franchises on a true-HD device with standard third-party support and without the gimmicks? Dear lord, please turn back time.


1. The gamecube > Xbox

2. The Wii sold quite a bit more than the 360 ( = more successful).

3. 720 p 'hd' (which is what most of 360 games were and not even most of original xbox games if memory serves me correctly) would not have done much for Nintendo's more cartoonish style in video games. Obvioulsy, 1080p makes a difference but the early on "high definition" games didn't really look that much better than the standard definition games from the generation before.

4. Those "gimmicks" are what sold, what still sells, and what will continue to sell Nintendo devices. All those succesful generations of Nintendo devices? Yea... Nintendo introduced NEW things and NEW playstyles in each of them. The original xbox did horrible in sales and while the 360 did much better it still came no where close to Wii level. The Wii U I doubt will ever have a point where the one passes it (especially if xbox is spun off).

5. Don't blame Nintendo for third party developers being too lazy to optimize games for their consoles because it "takes too long to program for their controllers." Lazy developers = apathetically passive buyers. It's their own fault.

6. Much love!