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Forums - Sales - August 2014 NPD Thread! PS4 - 190k, XBO - 160k, Wii U < 60k, PSV < 6k

jlmurph2 said:
Hmmm sounds like that "Wii U overtracked" thread is getting more credible.

Well that was about sales until the end of June. August sales don't really change the fact that it was overtracked already by a significant amount.



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thismeintiel said:
Burek said:

$400 million is mostly for NFL to use and showcase Surface tablets, and to have logos plastered everywhere. Very little to do with XBox altogether.

While that may be true, it still makes the NFL more synonymous with MS than Sony or Nintendo.  They also had a deal with EA for exclusive advertising, which was probably another multimillion deal.  Either way, both deals haven't really done anything for MS.


Not NPD related, but it is related to the NFL deal, so I had to post it.  Sports announcers keep calling the surface tablets iPads:

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-nfl-surface-ipads-2014-9



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Ninsect said:
jlmurph2 said:
Hmmm sounds like that "Wii U overtracked" thread is getting more credible.

Well that was about sales until the end of June. August sales don't really change the fact that it was overtracked already by a significant amount.


Eh, it just shows that its STILL getting overtracked. Which intrigues me.



CGI-Quality said:
Soundwave said:

This gen is going to be way down from last gen. 

I'm guessing you mean for the US only.

Are things doing great elsewhere?



jlmurph2 said:
Ninsect said:
jlmurph2 said:
Hmmm sounds like that "Wii U overtracked" thread is getting more credible.

Well that was about sales until the end of June. August sales don't really change the fact that it was overtracked already by a significant amount.


Eh, it just shows that its STILL getting overtracked. Which intrigues me.

Yeah, just saying that it doesn't make the already credible thread more credible. ioi has to fix his WiiU tracking though, I bet it's been overtracked by at least 5-10k per week for a long time (globally).



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JOKA_ said:

Not NPD related, but it is related to the NFL deal, so I had to post it.  Sports announcers keep calling the surface tablets iPads:

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-nfl-surface-ipads-2014-9

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Wii U could be as low as 15k per week (60k whole month), but yeah, Wii U is definitely over tracked



Won bet with t3mporary_126 - I correctly predicted that the Wii U's LTD at the end of 2014 would be closer to 9 million than 10 million. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6673287

So much for that 60k baseline, mario kart legs huh



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binary solo said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
binary solo said:
Don't sports games usually do proportionally better on PS than on Xb? If that's the case then with PS4 user base being more than Xb one I would think even with the promo and bundle exclusivity it would still be hard for madden on Xb to outsell madden on PS. Also the difference may not be huge, PS4 version only has to outsell xb one version by one unit to "win" the month. I think people are blowing the madden thing out of proportion in terms of game sales. What is intriguing is that PS4 won by more than the 360-PS3 gap so the madden deal didn't do as much as hoped for Xb one hardware.

No...

EA which makes most sports games partners with XB more for a reason.

Only now is the PS userbase bigger in the US, that it looks like it does better. 360 vs PS3, 360 is not only bigger LTD US but bigger "sports" proportionally LTD USD irc.

You may be right for other sports, but for Madden I'm right. For madden 10, 11, 12 and 13 sales ratio between 360 and PS3 was around 1.2:1. As the hardware ratio in favour of 360 never fell below 1.6:1 it means all 4 of those maddens did proportionally better on PS3. The ratio is taken from North America madden sales, not USA, but given the hardware ratio for North America is still ~1.6:1 in favour of 360 I think the data is still legit. Basically all things being equal, if xb one had a slight lead over PS4 in the USA, you'd expect madden to still sell slightly better on PS4. So given Ps4 has a non-trivial lead it is a very hard road for MS to get madden to sell better on Xb one than on PS4. In fact if xb one sales are roughly equal to those on PS4 proportional to user base then that's actually a "win" for Xb one, i.e a net gain for Xb one.

Then maybe exclusive marketting does work.



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CGI-Quality said:
noname2200 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Soundwave said:

This gen is going to be way down from last gen. 

I'm guessing you mean for the US only.

Are things doing great elsewhere?

For PS4, obviously. Everyone else, well, the numbers speak for themselves.

The question was mainly in relation to the topic, though - which just so happens to be about America.

It's difficult to do launch alligned comparisions with the PS2 since the PS4 launched in a different time frame, but no way is PS4 doing better than the PS2 in Japan and probably not Europe either. 

It's behind the Wii too. So if that's the market leader, it will be the weakest market leader we've seen in some time.