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The issue here goes far deeper than her cheating. What this really shows is the misandristic culture feminism has spread. Type 'Zoe Quinn' into Google and you'll find these headlines.

The sexist crusade to destroy game developer Zoe Quinn - DailyDot
Gaming Misogyny Gets Infinite Lives - Daily Beast
The Anti-Feminist Internet Targets 'Depression Quest' Game Creator Zoe Quinn - Motherboard

The other big issue here is free speech, but it's a direct consequence of misandry on the internet. Dissenting opinion is either deleted directly or buried under cries of mysogyny.



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The topic really at hand to be discussed is less about Zoey Quinn and more about video game jouralism and development as a whole. Which if the accusations are indeed true that Zoey Quinn was using sex to advance her way up in the industry then it shows how corrupt this medium has become.

The accusations are unproven, the burden of proof is on the accuser, and the high minded bullshit about Corruption in the Gaming Industry is no justification to send an internet mob on someone demanding they prove when they slept with who. Furthermore, the discrepancy between, say, Titanfall's critic score (86/100) and user score (6.2/10.0) on metacritic.com is way better proof of Corruption in the Gaming Industry - and a more urgent issue since that goes for pretty much every mediocre AAA game. That doesnt involve a SJW girl being a slut though, so maybe it's not as interesting.

We have to accept that we live in a time where information travels quickly and everybody has access which holds a variety of positives and negatives. So the two sides to the coin are this, if Zoey was a better girlfriend then the situation probably would have never happened, regarding this specific controversy and the other side is the people who Zoey had sex with should have seperated their work and love life.

What you're saying is that if you don't approve of my moral choices then you're fine with an Internet mob sniffing up my butt.

Does Zoey and the other guys deserve criticism for censorship AND the insults towards other people AND refusial to tell the whole story?

The only alleged "censorship" is against the "freedom" to discuss and judge random peoples private lives on the internet and level accusions against them without proof. This is not a "freedom" that has EVER been respected. It's not a freedom you or anyone should have.



chapset said:
whits knights gotta defend m'lady


damn you beat me to posting about white knights :(



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whiteknight101 said:

The topic really at hand to be discussed is less about Zoey Quinn and more about video game jouralism and development as a whole. Which if the accusations are indeed true that Zoey Quinn was using sex to advance her way up in the industry then it shows how corrupt this medium has become.

The accusations are unproven, the burden of proof is on the accuser, and the high minded bullshit about Corruption in the Gaming Industry is no justification to send an internet mob on someone demanding they prove when they slept with who. Furthermore, the discrepancy between, say, Titanfall's critic score (86/100) and user score (6.2/10.0) on metacritic.com is way better proof of Corruption in the Gaming Industry - and a more urgent issue since that goes for pretty much every mediocre AAA game. That doesnt involve a SJW girl being a slut though, so maybe it's not as interesting.

We have to accept that we live in a time where information travels quickly and everybody has access which holds a variety of positives and negatives. So the two sides to the coin are this, if Zoey was a better girlfriend then the situation probably would have never happened, regarding this specific controversy and the other side is the people who Zoey had sex with should have seperated their work and love life.

What you're saying is that if you don't approve of my moral choices then you're fine with an Internet mob sniffing up my butt.

Does Zoey and the other guys deserve criticism for censorship AND the insults towards other people AND refusial to tell the whole story?

The only alleged "censorship" is against the "freedom" to discuss and judge random peoples private lives on the internet and level accusions against them without proof. This is not a "freedom" that has EVER been respected. It's not a freedom you or anyone should have.


Is it a better burden of proof when games like Titanfall on metacritic get spammed by users who give the game a 0/10? I mean sure it's more than likely reviews for some games are bought but user scores are not very accurate either.

Am I fine with an internet mob? No. But that's the reality of today's world. What you could do could very well be posted on the internet.

So you should not be allowed to criticise or judge anybody for their actions on the internet? That's a very dangerous thing you propose. Especially when their actions have effects outside their personal lives.




This whole thing is literally a non-issue to me. Zoe can sleep with whomever she wants for whatever services she likes. There's no law against it.

I don't know about her game and I've never heard of those journalists. Gaming journalism has been a joke for over a decade, so its like I'm expecting anyone to act professional or write anything Iwant to read.

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PwerlvlAmy said:
chapset said:
whits knights gotta defend m'lady


damn you beat me to posting about white knights :(

 



fighter said:

There are even more direct examples of double standards applying here (wait for it) :

 

 

 

 

BONUS - IF YOU ARE NEW TO THE STORY :


Coverage of the main events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5-51PfwI3M
MundaneMatt re-upload: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Equc1QnQ9rw
Original video removal message: https://i.imgur.com/X83HEtL.png
Total Biscuit pushing this to the mainstream: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1s4nmr1/
Drama from Zoe: http://ohdeargodbees.tumblr.com/post/95188657119/once-again-i-will-not-negotiate-with-terrorists
Faked DOX of herself: http://thespectacularspider-girl.tumblr.com/post/95179284529/zoe-quinn-fake-doxx-hack
http://i.imgur.com/8CaC1n5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pY1vpV2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/oVrO7mA.jpg


Major storytime:
https://i.imgur.com/NYEgyLe.png
http://imgur.com/a/4VOcx
https://i.imgur.com/iSEPh6a.png
http://thezoepost.wordpress.com/
https://i.imgur.com/hZYcTx4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cYVpZRe.png
http://i.imgur.com/dtv2OOR.jpg
http://geekparty.com/phil-fish-goes-on-epic-twitter-crusade-to-defend-zoe-quinn/

Reddit suppression - spreddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dz0gs/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/
http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/2dt5hu/depression_quest_dev_claims_harassment_and
http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/2dyebw/quinnspiracy_theory_the_five_guys_saga/
http://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/2dzgtr/totalbiscuit_discusses_the_state_of_games/
And: http://i.imgur.com/FuWGETH.jpg

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Additional stuff:

/r/ response to suppression: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/2dzrlv/on_zoe_quinn_censorship_doxxing_and_general/
Reddit mod links to Quinn: http://i.imgur.com/0ZAaahT.png
Subreddit banned: http://i.imgur.com/oR5ACl6.png
Twitter "Blow over": https://i.imgur.com/J0FeyUJ.png
Wife of man she cheated posts: http://i.imgur.com/6urpLt5.png
http://i.imgur.com/FuWGETH.jpg

(Thanks to ShadowThaReaper for bringing this to PCH's attention):
http://steamcommunity.com/id/sweetjbro/recommended/270170/

 

 


This post is pretty much all one needs to know to decide on which side one should be. Almost the enitre internet is against the Zoey's behaviour , except GAF of course. The sheer amount of hypocrasy, double standards and sexism that web site has is reeeally mind boggling , its really sad sometimes



She is a woman, so she will always have sexist white knight to serve her



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Euphoria14 said:
Because having sex is normal and isn't a crime.


So is someone trying to get her arrested for that?

Or is that people are giving her shit because she's a hypocritical, heartless,lying, selfish opressive cunt that doesnt give a fuck about human beings and gaming 'journalism' chooses to ignore all this because it doesnt fit their narrative of all females being poor and misunderstood in gaming  and want to white knight M'ladys of the interwbes?

If it's the former, you'd have a point, if it's the latter, i really dont see the point of your post