So only after the first 15-20 hrs (More like 25 hrs), the game steps up? That's just unacceptable.

Yeah, the least they could do was actually give FFXIII-2 a proper ending but alas they wanted Valkyrie Profile 3. -_-

But that isn't true. There are objective qualities of a game to be measured. Graphics are objective, art style is subjective. Musical quality and scores are objective, but arrangements and taste are subjective. It has nothing to making up anything but more to do with gross exagerrations and a hivemind mentality that is adopted by corners of the internet. That's the only thing that irrates me, it bothered me just as much when FFX, FFX-2, and FFXII was released as well. I'd expect a ton more threads going "It wasn't as bad as everyone thinks!" as FF15 gets closer to release.

Yup! It was pretty much a turd rolled in glitter! That's pretty much what FFXIII really was!

If it wasn't called Final Fantasy and was made by another company, it wouldn't be pooped on so hard.

The game is actually pretty good. Great OST as always, great design as always, graphics didn't get old at all, and it's only linear for the first 15-20 hours.

First 20 hours are pretty annoying though. Also story is good, and characters are what they need to be, including hope being an annoying shit.

I enjoyed FF 13 as well even though it's one of my least favourite ff’s.

I think FF 13-2 is better though so I’d recommend trying that after you've finished it( I haven’t played FF 13-3 so I can’t comment on that one).

As said before, it's a bad final fantasy. It's nothing like them and spits on tradition to try and be cool. Horrible FF game, decent game otherwise.

That said, story was just awful in every respect. Nonsensical and emo.

Bolded for bs.

Everyone said it gets better after 12-15 hours, etc, etc, etc.  Once you reach Gran Pulse, it opens up into one giant area with three different hallways.  The game doesn't play any different except now each character has the additional three jobs that they couldn't use unlocked, except those paradigms are pretty much useless unless you want to grind your ass off.  Leveling one level on the paradagims they're not originally proficient with takes more CP at the start than it does to level the last skills you c an acquire for their other paradigms.

The only thing Gran Pulse opens up is a bunch of L'cie fetch quests.  Most people are going to do one or two then continue on with the game without attempting the rest, if they even get that far.

If anything, Gran Pulse is better than the rest of the game because the great music and the feeling of a living world where several different speicies of animals are running along the plains, or flying, etc.  It was just a large barren wasteland to me outside of the initial wow factor.

its still bad

all about final fantasy XIII is junk.

i still wainting to see final fantasy VII remake with graphics advent children movie.