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The Fury on 21 August 2014
Fusioncode said:

Key word being if. 

A quick google search shows an article which puts PS2s in 2011 at about 6.5million. That's about 0.5% of the population (at the time).



Hmm, pie.

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fighter on 21 August 2014
kitler53 said:
fighter said:

 

very true, when sony says it sold 10 million through that's also PR

10M solds is a fact being touted to garner good public relations.

most competitive or comprehensive is an opinion at best and seeing the slaughter of xbox in the 13 regions it is released in a pretty unpopular opinion.

 

but yeah, both PR.   the main difference being that sony's PR is good PR and ms's is fairly laughable and an obvious attempt to try and spin their poor fortunes into something other than the massive failure xbox has been to date.

then why not prove it instead on relying on it being PR ?



Dark_Feanor on 21 August 2014
The Fury said:
Fusioncode said:

Key word being if. 

A quick google search shows an article which puts PS2s in 2011 at about 6.5million. That's about 0.5% of the population (at the time).


And even if the PS4 sells 5 to 1 in India it would still be 1mi Xones or +$400mi revenue.

It´s a market that is worth fighting for. 



kitler53 on 21 August 2014
fighter said:
kitler53 said:
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10M solds is a fact being touted to garner good public relations.

most competitive or comprehensive is an opinion at best and seeing the slaughter of xbox in the 13 regions it is released in a pretty unpopular opinion.

 

but yeah, both PR.   the main difference being that sony's PR is good PR and ms's is fairly laughable and an obvious attempt to try and spin their poor fortunes into something other than the massive failure xbox has been to date.

then why not prove it instead on relying on it being PR ?

lulz, you need to lay off the weed bro.

 

 

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WebMasterFlex on 21 August 2014
Skeetys said:
what does that even mean?


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Sony-For-Life on 21 August 2014



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MoHasanie on 21 August 2014

I think he's only talking about India, so he could be right cause he says PS4 has had stock problems there.



    

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LivingMetal on 21 August 2014
fighter said:
LivingMetal said:
fighter said:
kitler53 said:

 

quoted for the truth.

very true, when sony says it sold 10 million through that's also PR


Yes.  PR can come in several forms, truth and spin are two on them.  We have no reason to believe that the 10 million PS4 units sold to consumers is not the truth.  So there is a difference here.  And this thread has nothing to do with Sony.  So please do not attempt to downplay their success when a valid point has been made that does not favor the PR image of Microsoft.

exactly, that's my point, saying PR is PR is invalidating any difference in reality


What the hell are you talking about?



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 21 August 2014
fighter said:
kitler53 said:

most competitive or comprehensive is an opinion at best and seeing the slaughter of xbox in the 13 regions it is released in a pretty unpopular opinion.

 

but yeah, both PR.   the main difference being that sony's PR is good PR and ms's is fairly laughable and an obvious attempt to try and spin their poor fortunes into something other than the massive failure xbox has been to date.

then why not prove it instead on relying on it being PR ?

Silly Billy.

You cannot prove an opinion. Since they are both PR statements, since everything said by a commercial entity publically is a PR statement, the company has a vested intrest in stating it.

Since Sony's announcement is a fact, even though they obviously said it for their benefit, the content of the fact itself remains the same.

However, since this MS's Rep claim, "XB1 is more competitive" is an opinion, then it not only is skewed to make the company and the product look good, but it is also completely subjective and not valid in any kind of rational discussion. What he says holds the same weight as a fan saying "XB1 is the most competitve because its Xbox". Now you see that can't make any kind of logical sense now can it?



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fighter on 21 August 2014
LivingMetal said:
fighter said:
LivingMetal said:


Yes.  PR can come in several forms, truth and spin are two on them.  We have no reason to believe that the 10 million PS4 units sold to consumers is not the truth.  So there is a difference here.  And this thread has nothing to do with Sony.  So please do not attempt to downplay their success when a valid point has been made that does not favor the PR image of Microsoft.

exactly, that's my point, saying PR is PR is invalidating any difference in reality


What the hell are you talking about?

you just need to read the beginning of the quote tree earlier in the thread