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MS needed a Uncharted alternative for xbox.

Square needed money. How is that hard to understand ?

Also more money for FF, wich is a good thing.



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Its seems stupid from our consumer point of view. From a financial point of view I'd bet it was a good move, or at least they project that.
No company makes moves like these knowing they are losing money



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MS paid Square enough to compensate for any loss of profit, making Tomb Raider timed-exclusive is sure to move atleast some consoles.

It's a bad move though, imo. Exclusives should become multi-plat, not the other way around. Atleast its timed only so its only gonna get some hardcore tomb raider fans to invest while everybody else just plays something else until it becomes available.



Imaginedvl said:
bananaking21 said:
Imaginedvl said:

Sure... Strong arguments there :)


well tell me then, how will being on a console that is being crushed in EU, will go no where in japan, and consantly being outsold by the compition in USA be good for the long term future of the franchise? 

please explain this to me. 

Nothing to explain to you. You said it was a "stupid" decision without haing any real knowledge about the deal and how much money it will bring to SE to actually work on the franchise in the future ro to make up for the lost sales on other platforms.

When they will come back on all platform (after the timed period or even with the next version), they will still sale it very well and make money out of it...
Or maybe you are forgetting about this? Or believe that the internet joke is going to "boycott" the game lol

This is just a random call and you have nothing to back your claim that's it.


but i do

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Titanfall XOne 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.41 0.54 0.00 0.11 2.06
2 Titanfall X360 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 0.58 0.22 0.02 0.07 0.89
3 Titanfall PC 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 0.13 0.13 0.00 0.04 0.31
Total2.130.890.020.223.25

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Watch Dogs PS4 2014 Action Ubisoft 1.05 0.98 0.09 0.31 2.43
2 Watch Dogs PS3 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.34 0.49 0.07 0.21 1.10
3 Watch Dogs XOne 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.65 0.33 0.00 0.06 1.03
4 Watch Dogs X360 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.48 0.27 0.00 0.07 0.83
5 Watch Dogs PC 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.06 0.09 0.00 0.03 0.18
6 iHackU: Feel the hacker in you - Inspired by Watch Dogs iOS N/A Action N/A 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
7 Watch Dogs WiiU 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total2.582.160.160.675.57

 

TitanFall was hyped more, Titanfall had is in a more popular genre, titanfall was made by the makers of CoD, Titanfall scored higher on metacritic, titanfall released in a better time for sales, (march vs may), titanfall was given away FOR FREE with the majority of xb1's sold for months, and according to offical data by NPD and GFK, titanfall is pretty much spot on when it comes to sales. look at that strong precense in EU, sub 1m, give me a break.

.89m vs 2.16 million in EU. around 2.5:1 sales ratio

.22 million vs .67 million in rest of the world sales, over 3:1 sales ratio.

Watch dogs shipped 8 million, by end of Q2. how much did titanfall ship?

the difference is night and day when it comes to sales, and even though TF had the better reasons to sell more, but the major set back was exclusivity. now the presence of the game in EU and rest of the world is pitiful compared to the game potential. guess whats gonna happen to tomb raider? 

the most important part of the sales is during launch, and when TR launches just on XB1, they will lose shit loads of sales because of it, and thus hurt the long term of the franchise. its a simple concpet. 



bananaking21 said:
Imaginedvl said:
bananaking21 said:


well tell me then, how will being on a console that is being crushed in EU, will go no where in japan, and consantly being outsold by the compition in USA be good for the long term future of the franchise? 

please explain this to me. 

Nothing to explain to you. You said it was a "stupid" decision without haing any real knowledge about the deal and how much money it will bring to SE to actually work on the franchise in the future ro to make up for the lost sales on other platforms.

When they will come back on all platform (after the timed period or even with the next version), they will still sale it very well and make money out of it...
Or maybe you are forgetting about this? Or believe that the internet joke is going to "boycott" the game lol

This is just a random call and you have nothing to back your claim that's it.


but i do

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Titanfall XOne 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 1.41 0.54 0.00 0.11 2.06
2 Titanfall X360 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 0.58 0.22 0.02 0.07 0.89
3 Titanfall PC 2014 Shooter Electronic Arts 0.13 0.13 0.00 0.04 0.31
Total2.130.890.020.223.25

 

PosGamePlatformYearGenrePublisherNorth AmericaEuropeJapanRest of WorldGlobal
1 Watch Dogs PS4 2014 Action Ubisoft 1.05 0.98 0.09 0.31 2.43
2 Watch Dogs PS3 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.34 0.49 0.07 0.21 1.10
3 Watch Dogs XOne 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.65 0.33 0.00 0.06 1.03
4 Watch Dogs X360 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.48 0.27 0.00 0.07 0.83
5 Watch Dogs PC 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.06 0.09 0.00 0.03 0.18
6 iHackU: Feel the hacker in you - Inspired by Watch Dogs iOS N/A Action N/A 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
7 Watch Dogs WiiU 2014 Action Ubisoft 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
Total2.582.160.160.675.57

 

TitanFall was hyped more, Titanfall had is in a more popular genre, titanfall was made by the makers of CoD, Titanfall scored higher on metacritic, titanfall released in a better time for sales, (march vs may), titanfall was given away FOR FREE with the majority of xb1's sold for months, and according to offical data by NPD and GFK, titanfall is pretty much spot on when it comes to sales. look at that strong precense in EU, sub 1m, give me a break.

.89m vs 2.16 million in EU. around 2.5:1 sales ratio

.22 million vs .67 million in rest of the world sales, over 3:1 sales ratio.

Watch dogs shipped 8 million, by end of Q2. how much did titanfall ship?

the difference is night and day when it comes to sales, and even though TF had the better reasons to sell more, but the major set back was exclusivity. now the presence of the game in EU and rest of the world is pitiful compared to the game potential. guess whats gonna happen to tomb raider? 

the most important part of the sales is during launch, and when TR launches just on XB1, they will lose shit loads of sales because of it, and thus hurt the long term of the franchise. its a simple concpet. 

The numbers you copy/pasted backs nothing and is irrelevant to the point. Most important part of the sales is at launch... Are you serious? Because when the game will be out on PS4 and/or PC this will not be a game launch on these platforms? What will it be?

Also, you are assuming:

- That people will not buy the game when it will come to another platform (or very little as say)
- That without any knowledge on what Microsoft gave to SE you seem to know FOR SURE that SE is not going to make the same amount of money at the end (if not more).
- That just because one episode of the game is not going to be out on all platforms (timed...), you assume people will not buy next iterrations and therefor the franchise is doomed :)

Give me a break lol

All this is just irrelevant to me as it is based on non-sense speculations/assumptions...



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There is no information whatsoever to suggest that Rise of the Tomb Raider WILL in fact come out on the Playstation at all?  If it does, it will most likely be 6-12 months later...by that time, most Playstation owning folk won't be that bothered about it.

But hey, it may be win win for SE in the long run as they may get a huge chunk from MS for the deal and get good sales on XBox and then get good sales on PS further down the line......but it may not go as planned.....the game could be rank.....and not sell well on XBox at all.....and alienate the bigger install-base with PS seeing as there will be much more PS3/PS4 owners than 360/XOne by then......very possibly to the tune of 10-20m of a difference.

I think it's a bad move for the consumer and a bad move for SE in the longterm.



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davygee said:

There is no information whatsoever to suggest that Rise of the Tomb Raider WILL in fact come out on the Playstation at all?  If it does, it will most likely be 6-12 months later...by that time, most Playstation owning folk won't be that bothered about it.

Agreed.

I mean look at The Last of Us Remastered. It totally flopped because its old news.



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If it was for PS4, people here would be celebrating instead of whining.

Stop with the fanboiysm people.



Microsoft offered something that made the move appear profitable.



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Because Squeenix is the douchiest company?