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cfin2987@gmail.com said:

With the 9 upcoming huge Nintendo Wii U titles and the lack of 3rd parties on the console, the question beckons, are we missing more by owning a Wii U alone, or by not owning a Wii U?

Bayo 2

X

Smash brothers

Toad treasure trail

Hyrule warriors

Mario Maker

Splatoon

Yarn Yoshi

Zelda U

 

Many other upcoming console games will be exclusive to either PS or Xbox, meaning, to have them all, you would need more than one console anyway. Nintendo are by far the best 1st party developerer and have the best exclusves. Will all or most games eventually become exclusive? Will Nintendo increase their output, eventually providing us with more than enough games? Who knows, but one thing is certain, 3rd parties are purposefully avoiding Nintendo, while Nintendo seem to be increasing their output of games.

And so the main question beckons, now that the war between Nintendo and 3rd party developers has begun, who will win?

Each has good first developer studios. While I agree that Nintendo is the best, as it's my opinion and they make games that generally fall into my preferance, that might not be the same opinion held by others. Both MS and Sony, and Sega back in the day, each have had some great games. 

Third parties are going to ruin themselves by developing overly abundant games that will eventually fail to profit, at least at the rate they are going. Nintendo could fail due to lack of getting out there and convincing people to purchase their platforms...



Gotta figure out how to set these up lol.

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cfin2987@gmail.com said:


3rd parties already won? Because they are selling less and less games to a smaller audience and turning to pay to play nonsense and subscription. Sounds to me like no one wins, just like in any war. The biggest losers are the gamers.

They aren't selling "less and less" games though. Software sales were pretty much identical across 2012 and 2013, despite there also being an increase in digital sales (which VGC don't track).

There has been a decrease since 2010/2011, but not because of 3rd parties. The majority of that can be credited to the death of the Wii/DS and the 3DS/WiiU's inability to continue their predecessors success.

The only problem 3rd parties have right now is the limited install bases of the PS4/X1, but that's unavoidable for a new platform. Software sales should drop slightly this year (since the PS3/360 are dying off), but rise again as the generation goes on. The same thing happened last gen, and i expect everyone other before it.

Like i said though, there is no war. The WiiU simply isn't an appealing proposition to 3rd parties. There will always be a handful that have enough resources to justify it, but to most it's a waist of time and money.



i Think Nintendo should improve third party relations.. but to be honest they should invest in acquiring mid budget studios and some good indie studios (yacht club games? shien?) so they can rely on there own games rather than third party just in case next gen its the same tale..



is it just me or does nintendo fans think that the exclusives nintendo has are the best thing to gaming?

I mean i just don't see it. Don't/haven't they play(ed) other games?



Nexus7 said:

 

None of those games makes me want to shell out $299.99 for a console. Just a bunch of sequels of franchises I've played for 10+ yrs.  Splatoon is nothing but a kid friendly/Mother approved Call of Duty.  

A Star Fox reboot would get me interested, but after seeing Miyamoto's recent tech demos of Giant Robot and that Surveillence Camera game makes me think he has lost his touch.  Yes, I know Star Fox is an old franchise, but it is one franchise Nintendo hasn't milked to high heaven. 


You should close your mind a little more!



I bet the Wii U would sell more than 15M LTD by the end of 2015. He bet it would sell less. I lost.

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They have "ONE" of the best.. but to say they are the best ever is bit subjective and can be annoying, depends on taste really



ohmylanta1003 said:
Nexus7 said:

 

None of those games makes me want to shell out $299.99 for a console. Just a bunch of sequels of franchises I've played for 10+ yrs.  Splatoon is nothing but a kid friendly/Mother approved Call of Duty.  

A Star Fox reboot would get me interested, but after seeing Miyamoto's recent tech demos of Giant Robot and that Surveillence Camera game makes me think he has lost his touch.  Yes, I know Star Fox is an old franchise, but it is one franchise Nintendo hasn't milked to high heaven. 


You should close your mind a little more!

Why because I think Splatoon looks lame?  Because I'm getting sick of old Nintendo franchises? Dude, I've been playing Zelda games for 20+ yrs, I'm worn out. 



Intrinsic said:
is it just me or does nintendo fans think that the exclusives nintendo has are the best thing to gaming?

I mean i just don't see it. Don't/haven't they play(ed) other games?

I can't speak for other Nintendo fans, but I do enjoy other franchises like Halo, Uncharted, BioShock, etc.. even if Nintendo franchises like Mario and Metroid are among my favorites!



                
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AZWification said:
Intrinsic said:
is it just me or does nintendo fans think that the exclusives nintendo has are the best thing to gaming?

I mean i just don't see it. Don't/haven't they play(ed) other games?

I can't speak for other Nintendo fans, but I do enjoy other franchises like Halo, Uncharted, BioShock, etc.. even if Nintendo franchises like Mario and Metroid are among my favorites!

I can respect that. I agree that nintendo make some really great games. But imho, so does everyone else. Looking back at every game in all the genres I have played, the only genre that I may tentatively give nintendo the crown is in side scrolling platform based games. And thats because even though I feel a game like LBP has more depth and variety, its floaty controls puts it behind offerings from nintendo. 

But when it comes to every other genre, I can only assume that most of the nintendo faithful simply haven't played other games in those genres and is why they champion nintendo games.

Like kets take MK. At its core its a arcade/combat/racing/tactical game. You basically race around, pick up power-ups or weapons and how or what you choose to use or pick up determines if you win the race or not. Personally, I feel it doesn't hold a candle to a game like Wipeout (especially wipeout HD/fury) which is basically the same kinda game just considerably harder cause emphasis is actually put on learning the tracks and piloting the crafts very well. And this is just an example....



Nexus7 said:

Why because I think Splatoon looks lame?  Because I'm getting sick of old Nintendo franchises? Dude, I've been playing Zelda games for 20+ yrs, I'm worn out. 

And yet I'd be willing to bet 99% of people who say this have played more CODs and Assassins Creeds than Marios or Zeldas. In fact, I bet  you have as well. If you don't like a series don't like a series, I'm fine with that. Blaming it on sequels though, *sigh*....