Yes. Oh, this was easy, what's the next question?
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Landguy said:
Wow, did you just really say you can tell the difference between 50-100% more power? Was this about console exclusives? It's not the power, its the software. THe software has to make use of the power. Even then, my argument has never been that I or anyone else can't see the difference. The difference is well documented in technical terms. I challenge you to see the differnece while actually playing a game. |
In response to your first question... no. I'm saying that the ps4 is 50-100% more powerful. And about the exclusives, yes, they look far better than xbox exclusives. And yes, if someone changes that settings on a game I'm playing on my PC, I very quickly notice the difference.
| Zekkyou said: If you want to criticize people for expressing that they see a big difference, you should do the same to those that say they can't see any difference at all/very little. |
Meh if I did that I would be criticizing myself. I can see the difference, but it doesn't bother me and turn me off to playing the game (PS3 was my console of choice last gen) so I consider myself in that same "very little" boat.
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Neodegenerate said:
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My point is it's hypocritical to criticize one and not the other, especially when you yourself agree it's a subjective opinion.

I play on a 24 LED monitor so the difference is always visible even when I sit 1 to 2m away. TVs do a good job at masking the difference though, its still visible but not as obvious.
Zekkyou said:
My point is it's hypocritical to criticize one and not the other, especially when you yourself agree it's a subjective opinion. |
I don't mind being a hypocrite from time to time.
LOL cannot believe xbox fans are still spewing this diarhea.... Yes anyone can see the difference, unless casual gamers have worse eye sight?? The diff between 720P and 1080P, and better frame rates and easy to see, double the pixles makes a huge diff and gets rid of aliasing (x1 games are more aliased). Not to mention some games have worse shadows, no Ambient oclusion worse effects even if Res is the same.
Sad how much denial . It is a FACT ps4 versions are better...Funny you never said this last gen when 5% diff in resolutions were talked about.
Every can see the difference, because some cannot compare then it doesn;'t exist now? Typical strawman and moronic argument.
No matter how much you spibn bury your head in the sand..yes PS4 has better versions of multi-plats, If some want to think they cannot see the difference, doesn;t mean the differences don;t exist. Denial must effect peoples eye sight too lol.
The difference is noticeable in compressd images it is more pronounced in motion on your TV....... Still images are a horrid way to compare, seeing it in motion betetr res immediately jumps out, and Frame rates are felt immediately. Add in shadws, efects and everything else, you get the drift.
Danman27 said:
In response to your first question... no. I'm saying that the ps4 is 50-100% more powerful. And about the exclusives, yes, they look far better than xbox exclusives. And yes, if someone changes that settings on a game I'm playing on my PC, I very quickly notice the difference. |
Like I said, no one(or not anyone sane) is arguing that the XB1 is equal to or more powerful thatn the PS4 anymore. The debate seems to be more in line with what the real differences are when actually playing a game. Most multiplats at this point have very similar resolutions - 900p upscaled to 1080p/1080p vs 1080p. The frame rates seem to vary a bit. But, an upscaled 900p image while actually playing a game on a large screen tv and a 1080p image on the same screen while actually playing a game would be imperceptible. I am not saying there isn't a difference. I am saying that if you are actuallly playing a game, you can't possibly be looking at the graphical differences and still interact with the game(unless your hiding behind a bush or rock). Sure, when you watch a gameplay viseo on line that compares the 2 you can study the differences because you are not interacting in the game. A comparison to a PC that is more likely on a small 27" monitior or small doesn't really work, as you would have to stop gameplay to change the settings.
It is near the end of the end....
Landguy said:
Like I said, no one(or not anyone sane) is arguing that the XB1 is equal to or more powerful thatn the PS4 anymore. The debate seems to be more in line with what the real differences are when actually playing a game. Most multiplats at this point have very similar resolutions - 900p upscaled to 1080p/1080p vs 1080p. The frame rates seem to vary a bit. But, an upscaled 900p image while actually playing a game on a large screen tv and a 1080p image on the same screen while actually playing a game would be imperceptible. I am not saying there isn't a difference. I am saying that if you are actuallly playing a game, you can't possibly be looking at the graphical differences and still interact with the game(unless your hiding behind a bush or rock). Sure, when you watch a gameplay viseo on line that compares the 2 you can study the differences because you are not interacting in the game. A comparison to a PC that is more likely on a small 27" monitior or small doesn't really work, as you would have to stop gameplay to change the settings. |
This is laughably moronic argument and flat false. Not to mention the difference often go beyond resolution (Like some games missing AO, worse shadows, more Alaising, screen tearing jump out)...... You can feel Frame differences, and you can see Resolution difference immedaitely unless you have eye sight issuies. Your thread is moronic.