Origins and Legends are better sidescrollers then Nintendo could ever come up with. The latest NSMB games pale in comparison...

I wouldn't be mad if Rayman was included, but I would prefer another 1st party character was brought in instead. 3rd party characters can be a nice addition, but I think it's important that they're treated as an exception and not the rule. This game is intended to be a celebration of Nintendo franchises, first and foremost. Nothing to do with the quality of the games, of course, I just see it as being contrary to the type of game Smash Bros. is.

Though like I said, I wouldn't really care if Rayman was included in this game. I've only played a demo of Rayman Origins on the 3DS, and didn't really care for it, but it seems a lot of people like his games, so I wouldn't say game quality has anything to do with it. I just think 3rd party characters included in SSB should either be more iconic (like Pacman or Sonic), or have a long history on Nintendo platforms (Megaman). Rayman doesn't really stand out on this level IMO...it'd be as odd as if Spryo, Crash, or Snake (wink) appeared, despite all having appeared on Nintendo platforms at some point.

But that's just my opinion on him appearing. The actual chances of him being in are anyone's guess. *shrug*

Not really, Tropical Freeze is better than Legends, Rayman is great, but much easier and less satisfying.

The new super mario bros games are made by a B team,the problem with Nintendo is they refuse to treat 2D Mario as a product that deserves the level of polish of 3D Mario, even if 2D Mario sells better. That is something Sean Malstrom complains often about.

1. Thats opinionated. Yes i like Origins+Legends more than NSMB (all 5 games), but DK Is better in general imo, and I love Kirby More (personal).

2. What does that have to do with SSB? Its not Nintendo IP so how good it is is irrelevant.

I can't speak for Tropical Freeze since I haven't played it, but Legends is indeed the best 2D platformer I've played in ages! Much better than the NSMB games, that's for sure!

Now I remember. America!

Staying Nintendo IP only would limit its appeal. IMO they could gather as many outside, 3rd party characters they can get, and Rayman is recognizable. It wouldent help its sales, but it would be a nice bonus, and most gamers do have an affection towards him. Same with Sonic, Bomberman, Snake... hell I would like to see even Nemesis in a SSB game one day