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AZWification said:
160rmf said:
AZWification said:

Huh? I'm pretty sure Yoshi was revealed 3 damn months ago!

i know, but the yoshi beggars were pretty annoyng before its reveal, so they deserve to be in the list

What about Jigglypuff beggers? They keep begging for a character that is not even that good..





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Meh, good to have more characters, but 4 FE characters seems overkill. I mean its a C tier Nintendo game at best. And worst of all she's a clone fighter. Would've been better if it was Shulk, a NEW rep.

Honestly Fire Emblem is overrated if you ask me, (And millions of others going by its meager sales) Even with all the advertising Nintendo does for the series it just lacks that spark and appeal that Nintendo games are known for. I think Xenoblade has this and could go really far as a series if they gave it a chance. Nintendo continues to give FE a chance and the sales don't say much for it. Now their are more FE characters than all the series besides 2, and worst of all nobody knows who these nobodies are.



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Well, now that the door's open regarding clone characters, I'm expecting a lot of new/returning characters to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Especially considering we got all those rather unknown Fire Emblem characters, while there are tons and tons of much more well-know Nintendo characters out there, still. Come on, Tingle!



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Aielyn said:
aDomingo said:
While it's good to see the sheer amount of characters, there better not be any damn clone whatsoever, none. There simply is no excuse for it in 2014.

I actually disagree a lot with this argument.

Clones like Lucina (who has been confirmed to be pretty much a literal Marth clone - same moveset, mostly the same base animations, just some adjustments to power/speed/size) are quick and easy to make, and if every character got such a clone, it would double the number of characters in the game.

In fact, for quite a few characters, I can think of perfect clones that could just have a few minor tweaks along the way. Dr Mario, Mr L, Daisy, and Bowser Jr would all fit well for the four main Mario characters. Lucas could easily be a Ness clone, opening the potential for another full Mother character. Tails could easily be a clone of Sonic (or use Shadow, if the added flying and tail stuff is difficult). Rayman and Barbara could both be in the game as clones of each other. They could include a second Mega Man. And some characters between franchises would sit well as clones of this sort. I'd love to see Shulk and Sora as clones of each other. Charizard could easily have a clone in the form of Ridley, if Sakurai wanted it to happen. Bayonetta could neatly be made a clone of Zero Suit Samus.

There are more, when you think about it. Sheik could get an Impa clone. Captain Falcon could get a clone in the form of another racer from the F-Zero franchise (or they could have Samurai Goroh as a clone of Takamaru, if Takamaru makes it in). Ganondorf could get a moveset more like that of Ghirahim, and the two could both be in the game. If Snake returns, they could have a clone in the form of a character from Battalion Wars. Wario could get a Waluigi clone. Ice Climbers could get a clone in the form of Mario & Luigi (from the eponymous subfranchise). Dixie Kong could easily be a Diddy Kong clone (as with the idea of Tails, it would just add the extra stuff for her flying with her hair). Paper Mario could be a clone of Mr Game & Watch. They could even get a bit playful, and do something like Tingle + Starfy as a clone of Rosalina + Luma - yes, Tingle and Starfy aren't from the same franchise, that's the "playful" part. They could include Professor Layton and Phoenix Wright as clones.

The potential for dramatically growing the lineup without having to do a dramatic amount of extra work is there, if only clones are seen as a positive (which they are, so long as the number of characters isn't pre-set prior to creation of clones).

 

EDIT: and if anybody looks at examples I gave and thinks "I'd hate that" for any particular example, just remember that I was coming up with clonings very quickly, and while I really like some of the possible clonings, the main point with the list is to demonstrate the potential, and not to say those clonings should happen.

Thanks for solidifying my argument.



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VanceIX said:
AZWification said:

What about Jigglypuff beggers? They keep begging for a character that is not even that good..



 I only liked Jigglypuff because she was pretty cute, but this image totally kills that!



                
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Well, now that the door's open regarding clone characters, I'm expecting a lot of new/returning characters to be unveiled in the coming weeks. Especially considering we got all those rather unknown Fire Emblem characters, while there are tons and tons of much more well-know Nintendo characters out there, still. Come on, Tingle!


How dare you believe that tingle gal is more important than Robin?!



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Pavolink said:
tbone51 said:


You dont kno S*** about smash i see. Marth/Ike/Robin are completely unique, only an idiot or somebody that doesn't kno SSB would think they were clones.. As of Now Lucina is the only clone but we haven't see her fully yet

I'm an idiot who likes to play with unique important characters, like the first SSB, rather than buy a game full of clones, like SSB for WiiU.

So you don't like SSBU because this game have 2 clone (Toon link/Lucina), but you like SSBM because this game don't have clones, except Drmario/falco/Ganondeurf/Pichu/roy/young link.

Great logic, sir. Try to troll better next time.

 

No, Ike and marth are not clones because they have the same blue hair.



Namiirei said:
Pavolink said:
tbone51 said:


You dont kno S*** about smash i see. Marth/Ike/Robin are completely unique, only an idiot or somebody that doesn't kno SSB would think they were clones.. As of Now Lucina is the only clone but we haven't see her fully yet

I'm an idiot who likes to play with unique important characters, like the first SSB, rather than buy a game full of clones, like SSB for WiiU.

So you don't like SSBU because this game have 2 clone (Toon link/Lucina), but you like SSBM because this game don't have clones, except Drmario/falco/Ganondeurf/Pichu/roy/young link.

Great logic, sir. Try to troll better next time.

 

No, Ike and marth are not clones because they have the same blue hair.

Actually, they have very different blue hair. One's all short andspiky, the other's going for the pretty boy look, complete with bangs and everything.