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Save your self the money and just get those games on PC



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spemanig said:
enditall727 said:


You have to realize that Sony fans wouldn't be shitting on you for not enjoying a first party game but more so at the fact that you are shitting on Naughty Dogs games by calling the mediocre.

But they are mediocre.

You have to understand that.

I understand that they're mediocre.

You know damn well that their games are not mediocre. LMAO 

Yes, they are. They are mediocre games hidden under some of the best presentation and story telling in the industry. And they copy themselves, a lot. And they are extremely derivative o... See? I didn't want to do this.

That's like pretty much saying the whole 3rd person shooter genre is mediocre because you probably couldn't name one that's better than Uncharted without it being JUST LIKE uncharted like Tomb Raider.

Tomb Raider is mediocre and just like Uncharted. Spec Ops: The Line is better. Saint's Row 3+4 are better. Vanquish is better. Resident Evil 4 is better. GTA 4 is better. Red Dead Redemption is better.

You can say that it doesnt appeal to you personally

I'd be lying. That's a weak way to convey opinion. The Batman games don't appeal to me. The Uncharted series is mediocre and over rated. The Last of Us is even more over rated. Sonic Advance 1+2 are bad games.

That's like saying Mario Galaxy is mediocre knowing DAMN WELL it isn't.

It isn't. It's a pinnacle of game design. Uncharted is a pinnacle of motion capture and a budget. And okay game design.

I dont like Animal Crossing or Halo but i do realizsrealize that their is some quality to these games.

I do like Uncharted though. Just because I think something is mediocre doesn't mean I hate it. They aren't shit games. They are mediocre games. Unremarkable games. I'm done with the series, because people don't continue to buy mediocre and unremarkable things. I'm not going to say "in my opinion" just to save someone elses fragile feelings, because they can't handle someone criticizing something they like.

Bioshock was amazing. 2 and Infinite were mediocre. I don't see myself getting excited by another one. Or how about this; God of War 1+2+3 are amazing, and that SONY team puts Naughty Dog to shame because their gameplay and level design is as amazing as their overall presentation and outshines all of the Uncharted games. Uncharted 2 was my favorite, though. I'd definitely play a God of War 4. I'd watch an Uncharted movie.

But people like you will just see "he's saying something bad about Sony."


My thoughts are here. I'm not replying to this anymore. You're off topic.

Lmaoooooooo

 

Funny ass comment XD

 

you know what's funny? I have bioshock and dont like it. God Of War 3 is far from amazing.  I played GOW3 right after Uncharted 2 and felt that Uncharted put it to shame lmao... Imo.. Oh my bad

 

Also, you dont feel the need to let it be known that it's your opinion when needed? If it's not your opinion then whose is it? You're cousins? a random person on the street? reviewers? The majority of people who bought it?

 

Well the only time i'll think "he's saying something bad about Sony" is when.. "he's saying something bad about Sony" So yea you're right about that. Good job ;)



ExplodingBlock said:
Save your self the money and just get those games on PC


I don't like PC gaming. I'm too casual for that.



spemanig said:
Dgc1808 said:

You can still run into your friends in the open world, but yea, no strike missions...
I'm in a similar situation to you. Most of my gaming is done on PC and I really only have the PS4 single-player console exclusives (Though destiny is very intersting to me and I keep PS+ for the freebies. They've been worth).
I haven't read through the thread yet and I will. I'm curious, is there a particular reason you don't want first party suggestions?

I guess I wasn't really clear. I'm not really interested in most of Sony's 1st party games, and I know the ones that I'll like already. I didn't want this to turn into a thread where all I do is defend why I think Naughty Dog's games are mediocre but presented well, or why I think The Order: 1886 looks like garbage, or any number of things that have absolutely nothing to do with why I want a PS4.

I don't want this thread to turn into a "Sony fans shit on you for not enjoying some games that happen to be made by first party studios." It's the same reason why I never bring up F-Zero on the Nintendo forums.

Understandable. I'm interested in Uncharted 4 but I don't hold the series in very high regard like alot of SONY fans do. I can say for sure I'm not paying $60 for it. I can also agree that what's been shown of The Order so far gives a lot of reason to worry about what the game actually offers.



4 ≈ One

Dgc1808 said:

Understandable. I'm interested in Uncharted 4 but I don't hold the series in very high regard like alot of SONY fans do. I can say for sure I'm not paying $60 for it. I can also agree that what's been shown of The Order so far gives a lot of reason to worry about what the game actually offers.


Exactly. And like I said before, there are first party games on the PS4 that I'm interested, but they are few, I know what they are already, and I won't care to hear someone tell me something I already know. "Yes Rime looks awesome and yes I want to play it. Can we move on to things I don't know?" I'm not entirely against people bringing up 1st party games, as I didn't know about the Ratchet & Clank game until this forum, but for the most part I want to leave that stuff alone because 3rd party is good enough for me. The first party sprincles is a bonus to me, like indies. (Obviously not like indies from a quality perspective)



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spemanig said:
ExplodingBlock said:
Save your self the money and just get those games on PC


I don't like PC gaming. I'm too casual for that.


I agree. I can't deal with all the hassle. People tend to think PC gaming is perfect.



Do what you want.



enditall727 said:


Ok well just dont be trying to act brand new if you do decide to get one. Dont be trying to claim how dissapointed you are of the PS4 because of exclusives and how it's "collecting dust" and how you feel you wasted your money on it. 

 

Just dont be one of those stealth guys who buys a system only to turn around and TRASH IT.

Why are you so afraid of his opinion? Even if he does end up doing that, which he's told you multiple times he won't, why would you even care? I doubt his opinion will tarnish the PS4 anymore than anyone else's opinion on it has.

OT: I'm in nearly the same boat as you except for the fact that I really only need KHIII and FFXV, and those aren't coming for awhile.



spemanig said:

It's a shallow reason to want a new system, so I'll also explain that the major reason I'm considering the PS4 is obviously to play 3rd party games. I don't really care for Playstation IPs except for God of War and ones they don't really care about making anymore like Jak & Dakster, Ratchet & Clank, and Sly Cooper. I was planning on waiting until next year to decide if I would invest in a PS4, but with the Destiny bundle, I may have to decide more quickly, hense the questions.

If God Of War is what you care about the most from Sony's first-party games, I think you should wait for God Of War IV to be confirmed. Also the original Ratchet And Clank is being remade for PS4 so you should check that out too. You can also bet that Sly 5 is coming and if it is then it can only come to PS4 and certainly not be a Vita exclusive. J&D is almost certainly dead as both Naughty Dog and Ready At Dawn Studio are busy making other games.

You should not get a PS4 this year as you'll clearly not like it without any of the above games. Though LBP 3 might be more up your alley.

Btw God Of War IV is my most anticipated PS4 exclusive as well :)



enditall727 said:
spemanig said:
enditall727 said:


You have to realize that Sony fans wouldn't be shitting on you for not enjoying a first party game but more so at the fact that you are shitting on Naughty Dogs games by calling the mediocre.

But they are mediocre.

You have to understand that.

I understand that they're mediocre.

You know damn well that their games are not mediocre. LMAO 

Yes, they are. They are mediocre games hidden under some of the best presentation and story telling in the industry. And they copy themselves, a lot. And they are extremely derivative o... See? I didn't want to do this.

That's like pretty much saying the whole 3rd person shooter genre is mediocre because you probably couldn't name one that's better than Uncharted without it being JUST LIKE uncharted like Tomb Raider.

Tomb Raider is mediocre and just like Uncharted. Spec Ops: The Line is better. Saint's Row 3+4 are better. Vanquish is better. Resident Evil 4 is better. GTA 4 is better. Red Dead Redemption is better.

You can say that it doesnt appeal to you personally

I'd be lying. That's a weak way to convey opinion. The Batman games don't appeal to me. The Uncharted series is mediocre and over rated. The Last of Us is even more over rated. Sonic Advance 1+2 are bad games.

That's like saying Mario Galaxy is mediocre knowing DAMN WELL it isn't.

It isn't. It's a pinnacle of game design. Uncharted is a pinnacle of motion capture and a budget. And okay game design.

I dont like Animal Crossing or Halo but i do realizsrealize that their is some quality to these games.

I do like Uncharted though. Just because I think something is mediocre doesn't mean I hate it. They aren't shit games. They are mediocre games. Unremarkable games. I'm done with the series, because people don't continue to buy mediocre and unremarkable things. I'm not going to say "in my opinion" just to save someone elses fragile feelings, because they can't handle someone criticizing something they like.

Bioshock was amazing. 2 and Infinite were mediocre. I don't see myself getting excited by another one. Or how about this; God of War 1+2+3 are amazing, and that SONY team puts Naughty Dog to shame because their gameplay and level design is as amazing as their overall presentation and outshines all of the Uncharted games. Uncharted 2 was my favorite, though. I'd definitely play a God of War 4. I'd watch an Uncharted movie.

But people like you will just see "he's saying something bad about Sony."


My thoughts are here. I'm not replying to this anymore. You're off topic.

Lmaoooooooo

 

Funny ass comment XD

 

you know what's funny? I have bioshock and dont like it. God Of War 3 is far from amazing.  I played GOW3 right after Uncharted 2 and felt that Uncharted put it to shame lmao... Imo.. Oh my bad

 

Also, you dont feel the need to let it be known that it's your opinion when needed? If it's not your opinion then whose is it? You're cousins? a random person on the street? reviewers? The majority of people who bought it?

 

Well the only time i'll think "he's saying something bad about Sony" is when.. "he's saying something bad about Sony" So yea you're right about that. Good job ;)

God Of War is far superior than Uncharted is what I think as well even as a Sony fan. Just like him you are stating your opinion as facts.

For me though God Of War has a vastly better story, gameplay, combat (vastly different but still better), enemy design and level design than Uncharted. Only thing I like about Uncharted more than God Of War are the overall cast and characterisation.