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Forums - Gaming - Who Will Get 2nd Place This Gen?

 

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PS4 71 9.49%
 
XBO 273 36.50%
 
Wii U 400 53.48%
 
Total:744

I think the chances are about 50-50 the X1 will ever take over the Wii U, but I do think the Wii U will hold #2. 

 

Whenever you talk consoles online people always bring up three things:

 

  • Exclusives
  • Price
  • Power
The Wii U is weaker by far, but it also has price in spades and is working on exclusives. What's powering the PS4 and X1 is basically a hype-train of new hardware, but once that cools off the Wii U will have the stronger purchase argument because it doesn't compete with PC or the PS4/X1 consoles for titles.
I don't think that will push the Wii U into first or anything, but that's enough to keep it in #2, sure. Last gen the PS3/ 360 split third party support. This gen third party support will get split across the PS4 and PC, leaving the Wii U as a niche product and the X1 in the cold.


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DerNebel said:
Teeqoz said:

Yes, but your statement compared it to other Nintendo consoles, and it does (at the top of my head at least!) have the highest attach rate for Nintendo systems.

That's the Gamecube

Okay second best attach ratio then :) You can only expect so much Nintendo knowledge from a Sony fan as myself. It's still a great attach rate though.



Teeqoz said:


that list is a bit (extremely) dated don't you think? And, I don't intend to bash the Wii's success, but Wii sports was not the only game that was heavily bundled with the Wii.

It probably is dated, but still amazing numbers on game sales none the less. 



bigtakilla said:
Teeqoz said:


that list is a bit (extremely) dated don't you think? And, I don't intend to bash the Wii's success, but Wii sports was not the only game that was heavily bundled with the Wii.

It probably is dated, but still amazing numbers on game sales none the less. 


True that.



AZWification said:

The Xbox One will easily get the 2nd place.  Can someone please explain to me why are still debating over this?

Depending on how well the PS4 does, it will hamper the XB1's prospectives considerably. If the Wii U and XB1 are fighting on the terms of Exclusives its a tight battle, XB1 3rd party support is nigh irrelevant with the PS4

Its 60/40 in XB1 favor, but a drop in price of the wii U could make than 50/50



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PS4 of course, because Ouya will be number 1



Raze said:
UltimateUnknown said:

There are a lot of delusional people who voted in the poll thinking Nintendo will take second place.

Sometimes it's just really sad these forums. If you make a poll about the consoles, it always turns into a popularity contest. People just can't seem to let go of their fanboyism and vote objectively for once.


Yeah, some people cant let go of their fanboyism. They  complain that someone didn't vote for their system, and call those people delusional.

I don't have an Xbox One and I have 0 intentions of ever getting it...

Why do I even try?



 

bigtakilla said:
Teeqoz said:


that list is a bit (extremely) dated don't you think? And, I don't intend to bash the Wii's success, but Wii sports was not the only game that was heavily bundled with the Wii.

It probably is dated, but still amazing numbers on game sales none the less. 

yep. I don't mean to sound like I was downplaying what Wii sold in 1st party (even discounting bundles), but the attach rate in terms of the core gaming crowd was sorely lacking. There's a reason the third parties abandoned Wii, and it wasn't because they couldn't make Wii adaptations of basically any title they wanted, it was because there simply weren't enough Wii gamers willing to buy them. Most serious gamers that owned a Wii also owned a PS3 and/or 360, and would buy the multiplats there. Some titles sold 10-20x more on 360 than the Wii version sold, despite the Wii install base being larger.

The point of it all is that aside from a relative handful of first party titles (and the top three are all ones that were heavily packed in and sold to non-gamers!), Wii software sales overall were pretty terrible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Xbox_360_video_games

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Wii_video_games

Once you get very far into the Wii list at all, the major AAA Nintendo franchises sold well, and beyond that things look dire. You have some shovelware dance games, and a spotting of titles selling 1M+, but where are the big third parties? I guarantee that if Wii buyers were ones that had a high attach rate to the system on average, you'd see many of the 360 top sellers on there as well, and we'd still have Wii sections with new/recent releases given significant shelf space in stores.

It all goes back to the sales on the Wii being much more similar to a vibrant console with a 40-60M install base rather than one with 100+, once you take out the Sports/Sports Resort/Fit/Play series. I can't tell you how many Wiis I have seen in homes with older people, in hospitals and retirement centers, with all manner of people that literally never bought a single game for it, or if they did, they only bought another motion fitness/bowling kind of game. Almost all of these people closeted or gave away the system once the fad wore off. 6 of the top 10 Wii titles are that motion fad nonsense. Then 100% of the remaining major sellers are 1st party games (wonderful games imho that deserve all of their success and then some). Third parties got mauled on the Wii.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/250163/call-of-duty-a-sales-history/

With an install base larger than PS3 or 360, the Wii managed just 5% of that franchise sales, selling so poorly that they just gave up.



Xbox One.



Raze said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

True the launch lineup did suck. But even still now it is still doing bad. MK8 had a nice boost for the 1st week and dropped drastically afterwards. The Wii U is going on 2 years and is on a decline. Not attacking the system but with it currently having all the advantages I names and still losing it just doesn't seem to be anything that will turn it around. Not saying it is impossible just improbable.

I just can't see what it can do to turn things around. Time will tell though!


I don't know, I don't call going from 30k to 180k to 84k a decline. Almost triple the sales 2nd week after a game release, along with some more heavy hitters coming out this year, I don't see anything but positive numbers compared to where they have been. What part of a decline are you seeing in these numbers?

It was the the 180k to 84k decline that I was reffering to. Because most thought that the Wii U would easily be number one either the week MK8 released even with only 2 days OR that it would FOR SURE be number 1 the following week with a full 7 days of sales. Yet it did worse with more days. So MK8 while it definitely boosted sales they dropped off kind of quickly. But yeah hopefully they can only go up.



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