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I don't think it will either but it will still do good!



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Dark Chaos said:

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png

Actually, you need to have a look at this chart here...

https://i.imgur.com/b4RymGV.png



Garland said:
Dark Chaos said:
 

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png

Actually, you need to have a look at this chart here...

https://i.imgur.com/b4RymGV.png

so in other words.. xbox divison still 5 bil in the hole... but damn.. look at Nintendo..



Man.. I hate it when your girl has to leave my place to come back to you..

This one time, in last generation, PS3 was dead last...

Things change. If there`s one thing that videogame history shows is that nothing is written in stone.
Personally, i believe that when this generation ends XB1 will just have reached 60M. A big fall, but still very good.



Garland said:
Dark Chaos said:
 

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png

Actually, you need to have a look at this chart here...

https://i.imgur.com/b4RymGV.png


That's INCOME, not PROFIT.  There is a difference!



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BillyBong said:
Garland said:
Dark Chaos said:
 

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png

Actually, you need to have a look at this chart here...

https://i.imgur.com/b4RymGV.png

so in other words.. xbox divison still 5 bil in the hole... but damn.. look at Nintendo..


Actually i'ts MUCH worse than that...that is INCOME, not profit...when you factor in things like marketing and PR, the numbers are even worse for Xbox.



Garland said:
Dark Chaos said:
 

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png

Actually, you need to have a look at this chart here...

https://i.imgur.com/b4RymGV.png

And that's just net income... Things look worse for the Xbox brand when you factor in profits. The Xbox brand will go further in the red because all that money that was put into advertising and R&D for the Kinect (X1 version) has been wasted. MS made a long-term investment into the Kinect only for it to be debundled.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Dark Chaos said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Their gaming division has been profiting since 2010 and the PS4 has already begun to profit.

Not according to official figures. They lost money the last two years.
http://i.imgur.com/1E9uv0y.png


lolwut?

It clearly shows the lost money the past two years



Dark Chaos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:


lolwut?

It clearly shows the lost money the past two years

You're going to have to explain because that chart says income, and the Sales numbers are positive so...



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Dark Chaos said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:


lolwut?

It clearly shows the lost money the past two years

You're going to have to explain because that chart says income, and the Sales numbers are positive so...


The big bars are the sales aka Money generated by sales. The small bars which are below zero are the Operating income values which show loss.

 

Operating Income = Gross Income - Operating Expenses - Depreciation & Amortization