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padib said:
Ucell said:

Which happens to be just like your prediction that Nintendo games are enough to make their consoles sell very well. It hasn't been the case yet, yet you continue to believe so.

It's not a prediction, it already happened. The Wii's 1st party tally is nearly 400m, similar to the numbers posted on their handhelds.

I believe in the numbers, you believe in your fantasies.

What you fail to take into account is that the goalposts are very fluid in this case.

Reality is simply that Nintendo can't sell systems without third parties. Facts that contradict this natural law are anomalies and flukes, facts that support this natural law doesn't exsist but are still powerful evidence. Finally, you completely overlook the important emotional proof. Obviously it feels like Nintendo can't sell systems or games without third party support, so it is definietly true.

Hopefully this clears up the confusion somewhat.



Max King of the Wild said:

Use a dictionary before trying to call someone out

one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

 

Reggie doesn't pitch or promote nintendo products? 


I don't think you grasp the concept of a shill at all

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill



mii-gamer said:
Max King of the Wild said:

Use a dictionary before trying to call someone out

one who makes a sales pitch or serves as a promoter

 

Reggie doesn't pitch or promote nintendo products? 


I don't think you grasp the concept of a shill at all

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/shill

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill


Wiki and freedictionary vs Mariam Webster... Okay 👌 😁lol



padib said:
impertinence said:

What you fail to take into account is that the goalposts are very fluid in this case.

Reality is simply that Nintendo can't sell systems without third parties. Facts that contradict this natural law are anomalies and flukes, facts that support this natural law doesn't exsist but are still powerful evidence. Finally, you completely overlook the important emotional proof. Obviously it feels like Nintendo can't sell systems or games without third party support, so it is definietly true.

Hopefully this clears up the confusion somewhat.

You can't clear up something that was for me absolutely clear since the start, and it's that Ucell as well as a huge majority of people have a fantasy of the actual situation which causes them to interpret the data in a way that fits their emotions.

Aaah, I see. My post was an attempt at humerously supporting your point. I realize that you see this situation the same way as myself, and used some sarcasm to put the point across. I guess my intentions were not clear.



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I don't know about that,  When Nintendo put out the 64 there was a lot of negative feeback from developers having to use Carts for media, when Goldeneye came out everyone wanted an N64 - up to that point people were complaining about lack of games and 3rd party support.  Sound familiar?  WiiU's older brother's have all had the same issues at Market.  The one exception was the Wii. 



Wii u mario bros most successful 8th gen game vg charts world it's a failure go figure



By the way, here's Oxfords definition

A person who pretends to give an impartial endorsement of something in which they themselves have an interest.

Should we bring up Reggie's statements comparing Nintendo, Ms and Sony systems acting impartial? I assume we can agree he has an interest in the system.

Like it or not Reggie = shill



padib said:
DerNebel said:
padib said:

As I've shown, the real exceptions are the N64 and the cube, they failed to sell because they were largely overshadowed in visibility by their nearest competition, the Playstation.

Nintendo now has more visibility and the PS and XB are now stuck in a corner to sell games to one audience, mostly dudebro and adult males. Nintendo is very well capable of selling hardware in this environment.

It's clear to me.

This "corner" they are stuck in is the absolute majority of the audience that games on consoles...

So what happened to the 150m people that bought the PS2 when it catered to a very different audience with games like Parappa the Rappa, Coolboarders, Crash Bandicoot, Ratchet and Clank.

No, it is not the absolute majority of the audience that games on consoles. Sure games for that audience are selling well now, but the sales in that market are also stagnating now, Watch Dogs being the exception because gamers were starved.

You might want to take a look at the best selling PS2 games and realize that almost all the top selling franchises from back then were still present and very big on PS3 and will also still be present on PS4, the majority of the PS2 audience was the same as the PS3/360 and will be the same on the PS4 and it's is absolutely the audience you want to have as game console manufacturer, get those people on board and think about the smaller groups later.

And sales in that market are really not stagnating at all



And just to ice the cake... Dictionary.com

a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty

I think employment qualifies as self interest and personal profit.

Reggie = shill