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AndrewWK said:
binary solo said:
badgenome said:
Took me a second to realize that termite = thermite.

I want a termite gun!

I think you might find one of those in Sunset Overdrive...or better still, hopefully in Ratchet's first original outing on PS4, if he ever gets one.


I seriously doubt there will be a Ratchet game on the PS4, maybe into the nexus remaster.

Unfortunately you may be right. It is one reason for a mean-spirited wish for Sunset Overdrive to fail. If it does it means Insomniac is more likely to return to R&C. But really I don't want Insomniac to suffer two epic fails in a row because that could be the death of a pretty talented studio.

Still one can hope for a late gen return for Ratchet. If PS4 truly becomes uber dominant it might be hard to resist trying to cash in by making another, proper, Ratchet and Clank game. But it does seem like Sony want to suck most of the profit from R&C, which might be why Insomniac is seeing if they can find greener pastures.

@ BMaker11. Well at least we know RaD can do decent gameplay, so we shouldn't have too much problem with confidence in that respect. It's just a question of whether they can get close to Uncharted / TLOU / GoW quality narrative flying solo. Hopefully they've had help on that score.



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AndrewWK said:

I seriously doubt there will be a Ratchet game on the PS4, maybe into the nexus remaster.

It didn't get a lot of attention, but they announced a new one at E3 to coincide with the movie next year. Supposedly it's a remake/reimagining of the first game.



Conegamer said:
Yup sounds like what I've seen/heard. You'll be blown away graphically, but you'll find nothing major in the gameplay side of things.

Which is fine I suppose, but with all the other games coming not sure if "being pretty" is enough for me. Will have to see more.


That's exactly how I feel. Pretty isn't enough. I get the feeling that gaming this gen it's going to be harder and harder to bring in a feeling of something new. I hope I'm wrong....



BMaker11 said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ready at Dawn is unproven. They've only taken other people's material and ran with it. If it aint broke, don't fix it mentality (hence why Daxter, Ghosts of Sparta, etc are still decent games since there was already a template in place for them). We shouldn't be getting hyped for an original game whose development team we technically know nothing about. It'd be like getting hyped for a new IP Sony Bend game. 


We should not be excited for a new IP because it's a new studio??? No, just no.



VanceIX said:
So pretty much what everyone's been saying- great visuals but mediocre/average gameplay.


He said gameplay was good and he wanted to play more but its a familiar gameplay wich is obvious caus ethey are trying to be a 3rd person shooter it doesnt have to be inovative just fun, ppl realy need ot stop waiting for inovations everytime a new game comes out, its not possible.



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So it's perfect and a must buy. Great.



DakonBlackblade said:
VanceIX said:
So pretty much what everyone's been saying- great visuals but mediocre/average gameplay.


He said gameplay was good and he wanted to play more but its a familiar gameplay wich is obvious caus ethey are trying to be a 3rd person shooter it doesnt have to be inovative just fun, ppl realy need ot stop waiting for inovations everytime a new game comes out, its not possible.


Agree it's stupid, if that's how we judeg games how many are good? Barely any games are innovative, play games because you enjoy them period.



TheBoneCollector said:
DakonBlackblade said:
VanceIX said:
So pretty much what everyone's been saying- great visuals but mediocre/average gameplay.


He said gameplay was good and he wanted to play more but its a familiar gameplay wich is obvious caus ethey are trying to be a 3rd person shooter it doesnt have to be inovative just fun, ppl realy need ot stop waiting for inovations everytime a new game comes out, its not possible.


Agree it's stupid, if that's how we judeg games how many are good? Barely any games are innovative, play games because you enjoy them period.


Thank you kind sir my point exactly. Under the non inovative gameplay imediatilly means crap idea we have to put on the crap list games like Uncharted, Gears and God of War, Halo, Dark Souls 1 and 2 (obviously didnt inovate, Demons Souls plays exactly the same), Skyrim, Forza, Gran Turismo, every sport game in the planet, pretty much every fighting game and like 1 million other games.



AndrewWK said:
kitler53 said:


next ratchet and clank!

 

OT - i played a ton af third person shooters last gen.  as odd as it is to have to say this,... a game being made in the genre i enjoy isn't a negative to me.    i want to play this,.. and uncharted 4,.. and the next tomb raider,.. and i won't bash the next gears. 

the order has a fantastic vibe to it and if the story is half as good as RaD says it is i'm going to enjoy this very, very much.  besides, everyone comments on the unique gunplay.  it might not be the biggest "innovation" but it looks fresh to me. 


I didn´t hate on it. I said it plays good but not mindblowing, but I only played against human enemies I am really excited to fight the monsters and am looking foward to it. 


not targeted at you, just at the "general sentiment".



DakonBlackblade said:
TheBoneCollector said:
DakonBlackblade said:
VanceIX said:
So pretty much what everyone's been saying- great visuals but mediocre/average gameplay.


He said gameplay was good and he wanted to play more but its a familiar gameplay wich is obvious caus ethey are trying to be a 3rd person shooter it doesnt have to be inovative just fun, ppl realy need ot stop waiting for inovations everytime a new game comes out, its not possible.


Agree it's stupid, if that's how we judeg games how many are good? Barely any games are innovative, play games because you enjoy them period.


Thank you kind sir my point exactly. Under the non inovative gameplay imediatilly means crap idea we have to put on the crap list games like Uncharted, Gears and God of War, Halo, Dark Souls 1 and 2 (obviously didnt inovate, Demons Souls plays exactly the same), Skyrim, Forza, Gran Turismo, every sport game in the planet, pretty much every fighting game and like 1 million other games.

All the games you listed originally had unique or fun gameplay when they were first released (or at least the IP was).

The Order looks like a prettier version of the standard linear third person shooters. The non-interactive theatrical gameplay and quicktime events aren't helping either.



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