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bubblegamer on 11 June 2014
Ninsect said:
bubblegamer said:
Ninsect said:

I said "known". I assumed nothing

That is what an assumption entails. Prove this if it's a fact.

The proof is right there on amazon


That is not proof lol. You're all talk i see.



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DeadBigfoot21 on 11 June 2014
Ninsect said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Selective reading? I just listed all the X1 consoles in the top 100 and all the PS4 consoles in the top 100. If you want to compare the consoles by themselves that don't include bundles go ahead, the figures are there. Standard PS4 is 7th, $399 X1 is 43rd. Is that better?

Of course, the standard ps4 console has been out for how long? It is the same exact price as when it launched. Xbox one @ $400 just launched into the market. Give it time to sell because it wont happen overnight. 

A console that has been on the market longer will obviously be doing better on the charts. Just using common sense here.

I wish that was true

 

*looks at his wiiU*

You realize the wii u has been doing bad before mario kart 8, right? 

You do know lots of devs have been ditching the wii u, right?

You do know the power in the wii u is alot weaker compared to xbox and ps, right? 

Using that comparison is getting old quickly. 



vivster on 11 June 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:

Why would they? Bungie is NOT owned by microsoft so i dont see why. 

Or what did you mean by exclusive rights? to the bundle?

You are still not getting what I'm trying to say.

Sony paid(probably big time) for the Destiny partnership, including exclusive content, early access and the bundle. Activision is a business so it will accept any proposition that seems good enough. That means one of two things happened. Either MS didn't care at all about Destiny or their proposition to Activision wasn't as attractive as Sony's, hence they got the deal.

The deal is rightfully earned by Sony because they apparently cared more about it than MS.

So we're allowed to compare this bundle to every other bundle MS is offering because they could've had the same.



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Ninsect on 11 June 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
Ninsect said:

I wish that was true

 

*looks at his wiiU*

You realize the xbox one has been doing bad before the price cut, right? 

You do know lots of devs have been ditching xbox exclusivity, right?

You do know the power in the xbox one is alot weaker compared to ps4, right? 

Using that comparison is getting old quickly. 

You're right, you're right. I've been beaten by your logic



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SWORDF1SH on 11 June 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
You are really comparing a console by itself against a console that is bundled with a game that is getting hyped like crazy?

Fail!

The console will do better once more games roll out. Like this holiday with some exclusive games.

Selective reading? I just listed all the X1 consoles in the top 100 and all the PS4 consoles in the top 100. If you want to compare the consoles by themselves that don't include bundles go ahead, the figures are there. Standard PS4 is 7th, $399 X1 is 43rd. Is that better?

Of course, the standard ps4 console has been out for how long? It is the same exact price as when it launched. Xbox one @ $400 just launched into the market. Give it time to sell because it wont happen overnight. 

A console that has been on the market longer will obviously be doing better on the charts. Just using common sense here.

The console was announced over a month ago. It's been advertised for weeks. If you mean that MS advertising campaign has to kick in more and the presence of the $399 X1 has to soak into the general public more then yes I think there could be room for sales to go up but so far it's not doing great. It's gone down another 7 place in the last hour. Now at 50.



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DeadBigfoot21 on 11 June 2014
vivster said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:

Why would they? Bungie is NOT owned by microsoft so i dont see why. 

Or what did you mean by exclusive rights? to the bundle?

You are still not getting what I'm trying to say.

Sony paid(probably big time) for the Destiny partnership, including exclusive content, early access and the bundle. Activision is a business so it will accept any proposition that seems good enough. That means one of two things happened. Either MS didn't care at all about Destiny or their proposition to Activision wasn't as attractive as Sony's, hence they got the deal.

The deal is rightfully earned by Sony because they apparently cared more about it than MS.

So we're allowed to compare this bundle to every other bundle MS is offering because they could've had the same.

You answered your own question buddy. 



MaulerX on 11 June 2014
bananaking21 said:
Azerth said:
Why buy something online when you can just go to a store and pick it up


i guess amazon as a whole are fucked then. 

 

 

They're not fucked at all. But, since they started charging tax in my state, I honestly rarely order from them, unless it's something obscure I can't find in WalMart.



vivster on 11 June 2014
DeadBigfoot21 said:
vivster said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:

Why would they? Bungie is NOT owned by microsoft so i dont see why. 

Or what did you mean by exclusive rights? to the bundle?

You are still not getting what I'm trying to say.

Sony paid(probably big time) for the Destiny partnership, including exclusive content, early access and the bundle. Activision is a business so it will accept any proposition that seems good enough. That means one of two things happened. Either MS didn't care at all about Destiny or their proposition to Activision wasn't as attractive as Sony's, hence they got the deal.

The deal is rightfully earned by Sony because they apparently cared more about it than MS.

So we're allowed to compare this bundle to every other bundle MS is offering because they could've had the same.

You answered your own question buddy. 

I don't know which of the 2 it was. Neither of them are good news for MS.



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DeadBigfoot21 on 11 June 2014
SWORDF1SH said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
DeadBigfoot21 said:
You are really comparing a console by itself against a console that is bundled with a game that is getting hyped like crazy?

Fail!

The console will do better once more games roll out. Like this holiday with some exclusive games.

Selective reading? I just listed all the X1 consoles in the top 100 and all the PS4 consoles in the top 100. If you want to compare the consoles by themselves that don't include bundles go ahead, the figures are there. Standard PS4 is 7th, $399 X1 is 43rd. Is that better?

Of course, the standard ps4 console has been out for how long? It is the same exact price as when it launched. Xbox one @ $400 just launched into the market. Give it time to sell because it wont happen overnight. 

A console that has been on the market longer will obviously be doing better on the charts. Just using common sense here.

The console was announced over a month ago. It's been advertised for weeks. If you mean that MS advertising campaign has to kick in more and the presence of the $399 X1 has to soak into the general public more then yes I think there could be room for sales to go up but so far it's not doing great. It's gone down another 7 place in the last hour. Now at 50.

I haven't seen a single commercial for it. I've only seen it advertised at gamestop (which is expected coming from a video game store) but yes it will sell more but not as much as this holidays. 



Mr Puggsly on 11 June 2014
Mystro-Sama said:
To be honest, Amazon doesn't really indicate anything.

Amazon is our best barometer for doom.



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