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Will Wii U rise like a Phoenix?

Hell Yes!! 172 29.20%
 
Maybe. 161 27.33%
 
Not likely. 105 17.83%
 
No you fool! It's GameCube 2.0 43 7.30%
 
It's worse than Gamecube. 84 14.26%
 
I love Playstation, and I... 23 3.90%
 
Total:588
badgenome on 23 May 2014



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Soundwave on 23 May 2014
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:

The PS3 was actually doing numbers the Wii U could only dream of at comparable points in their life cycle ... case in point:

PS3 (April 2008): 183k NPD sales
Wii U (April 2014): Approx. 60k NPD sales

This is even before the PS3 Slim.

Generally speaking to be honest I don't think there's ever been a console in the history of gaming that's come back strong from sales this low 17-18 months into the life cycle. That's waaaaaaay too late in the game. 

The PS3 also had the benefit of being one of the cheaper Blu-Ray players on the market for a time (which could also update its firmware), technically being relatively cutting edge for a while, and having 100% third party backing ... none of which the Wii U has going for it. 


So buy saying that, you're saying the Wii U won't be a successful console?


Hate to break it to you, but yeah, that's pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. It will take a minor miracle to hit 20 million at this rate, which is an extremely mediocre LTD for a home console. 


Well now I got your opinion.


I've been watching the game business for 20 years, there is no console that's turned around to have good sales after this slow of a start in that time frame. 

If there was to be a turn around it should have started with the $50 price drop + Zelda bundle last fall, built momenteum with Mario 3D World and Wii Party U, and then carried that momentum into this year with Wii Fit U and DKC: TF (all multi-multi-million sellers from last generation). But the Wii U has not even had one month above 100k in North America this year so far despite all that. 

It's not my opinion so much as it is factual data and actual sales performance. 



Drakrami on 23 May 2014
TheLastStarFighter said:

It seems like Wii U has been around for so long and doing poorly for even longer.  But in reality it's only been a very bumpy year and half since release and the competing systems have only been on the market for around 6 months.  As of today we have, in total sales:

PS4:  7.7 million

Wii U: 6.2 million

XBOne: 4.5 million

So, despite all the praise for PS4 and the doom for Wii U, the Nintendo system is only about 1.5 million units behind the market lead.  There are definitely issues for Wii U, in particular declining 3rd party support, but there is also potential.  The system has the "advantage" of being on the market for the longest, meaning Nintendo is streamlining costs and ramping up software production while addressing key short-comings.  Knowing that many 3rd parties are not fully behind the system means that Nintendo can react and partner with willing 3rd parties for joint productions.  Price cuts are now possible to move units into homes. Both DS and 3DS saw initial trepidation from the public before eventually becoming market leaders.  They lead the market despite poor 3rd party support and weaker hardware when compared to the PS line.

Begining with the launch of Mario Kart 8, we could be about to see the begining of a Wii U turnaround.  PS4 and XBOne still have yet to show truly amazing exclusive software and many titles are seeing delays.  3rd party support is fantastic, of course, but Wii U could potentially offer a compelling alternative.  At E3 we could see:

-An amazing Zelda U title.

-The reveal of some game-changing new IP's along the lines of Wii Sports or Brain Age.

-Multiple 3rd party exclusives, perhaps titles such as Last Story 2 from Mistwalker.

-Expanded details on titles with high potential such as X, B2, Smash U, HW and others.

-Potential system re-designs or price cuts.

It is not completely out of the realm of possibility that we could see going forward over the next year and a half, Wii pushing forward with a mature Zelda, some unique new ways of playing games that capture the mass market, a sexy new look for the system, a $249 price and mutiple other core titles such as X, Last Story, Metroid and others.  It could rise to prominance and baffle those who said Nintendo needs 3rd parties and Wii U is underpowered.

Could it happen?  Will it?


Do yourself a favor go to the front page and click on sales year to date. Be amazed. 

 

If people think Vita is doomed with its 27.1% market share of handhelds, what is WiiU's 13.1% market share? super doomed? 



bubblegamer on 23 May 2014

So much necro bump worthy threads being made in the last 2 days hehe. I'm gonna enjoy this ;)



Train wreck on 23 May 2014

The Wii U is not competing in a vacuum. I don't know why you and other who think the system can turn around not see that. I mean damn, for every system seller that the Wii U will have, the PS4 will have 3.

The Wii U doesn't have this to move it in June, 3 days, half a million view..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2xLW0NZCLw

These are the type games that are going to move consoles. If that game is anywhere near Fight Night level, you are talking another million seller for the PS4 and ONE in a slow month. The 3DS was able to have its way because of game selection, price reduction, strong primal region and its closest hardware competitor had no real answer and no real support in the west, thats not the case with the Wii U against the PS4 or One. Just enjoy the system for what it is and not make it about things that will only disappoint you more in the end.



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PigPen on 23 May 2014
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:

The PS3 was actually doing numbers the Wii U could only dream of at comparable points in their life cycle ... case in point:

PS3 (April 2008): 183k NPD sales
Wii U (April 2014): Approx. 60k NPD sales

This is even before the PS3 Slim.

Generally speaking to be honest I don't think there's ever been a console in the history of gaming that's come back strong from sales this low 17-18 months into the life cycle. That's waaaaaaay too late in the game. 

The PS3 also had the benefit of being one of the cheaper Blu-Ray players on the market for a time (which could also update its firmware), technically being relatively cutting edge for a while, and having 100% third party backing ... none of which the Wii U has going for it. 


So buy saying that, you're saying the Wii U won't be a successful console?


Hate to break it to you, but yeah, that's pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. It will take a minor miracle to hit 20 million at this rate, which is an extremely mediocre LTD for a home console. 


Well now I got your opinion.


I've been watching the game business for 20 years, there is no console that's turned around to have good sales after this slow of a start in that time frame. 

If there was to be a turn around it should have started with the $50 price drop + Zelda bundle last fall, built momenteum with Mario 3D World and Wii Party U, and then carried that momentum into this year with Wii Fit U and DKC: TF (all multi-multi-million sellers from last generation). But the Wii U has not even had one month above 100k in North America this year so far despite all that. 

It's not my opinion so much as it is factual data and actual sales performance. 


But these is different times, anything is possible.



tbone51 on 23 May 2014
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:


Hate to break it to you, but yeah, that's pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. It will take a minor miracle to hit 20 million at this rate, which is an extremely mediocre LTD for a home console. 


Even though i agree with you, wasnt GCN (22mil) wayyyy more profitable than ps3 (82mil+)?



Soundwave on 23 May 2014
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:
PigPen said:
Soundwave said:

The PS3 was actually doing numbers the Wii U could only dream of at comparable points in their life cycle ... case in point:

PS3 (April 2008): 183k NPD sales
Wii U (April 2014): Approx. 60k NPD sales

This is even before the PS3 Slim.

Generally speaking to be honest I don't think there's ever been a console in the history of gaming that's come back strong from sales this low 17-18 months into the life cycle. That's waaaaaaay too late in the game. 

The PS3 also had the benefit of being one of the cheaper Blu-Ray players on the market for a time (which could also update its firmware), technically being relatively cutting edge for a while, and having 100% third party backing ... none of which the Wii U has going for it. 


So buy saying that, you're saying the Wii U won't be a successful console?


Hate to break it to you, but yeah, that's pretty much a forgone conclusion at this point. It will take a minor miracle to hit 20 million at this rate, which is an extremely mediocre LTD for a home console. 


Well now I got your opinion.


I've been watching the game business for 20 years, there is no console that's turned around to have good sales after this slow of a start in that time frame. 

If there was to be a turn around it should have started with the $50 price drop + Zelda bundle last fall, built momenteum with Mario 3D World and Wii Party U, and then carried that momentum into this year with Wii Fit U and DKC: TF (all multi-multi-million sellers from last generation). But the Wii U has not even had one month above 100k in North America this year so far despite all that. 

It's not my opinion so much as it is factual data and actual sales performance. 


But these is different times, anything is possible.


Technically sure, anything is possible. It's "possible" the Vita could outsell every other game platform this generation. It's still technically possible. 



NintendoPie on 23 May 2014
Train wreck said:

The Wii U is not competing in a vacuum. I don't know why you and other who think the system can turn around not see that. I mean damn, for every system seller that the Wii U will have, the PS4 will have 3.

The Wii U doesn't have this to move it in June, 3 days, half a million view..

Basing the success of a game off of YouTube views just makes you seem even more silly.



amak11 on 23 May 2014

mmmmmmaybe.

Hard to say either way, Could easily see now to the forseeable future Nintnedo trailing Sony and MS in the dirt. I remember when VGchartz had Xbox One at 4.6 million units sold, dropped from there... inaccurate numbers much?