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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 16 May 2014
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

How can you tell though?

No offense, but I'm highly skeptical of how well textures can appear with less resolution. So claiming that textures are far superior seems outlandish to me. Alas this is the problem with Exclusive titles.



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BenVTrigger on 16 May 2014
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

How can you tell though?

No offense, but I'm highly skeptical of how well textures can appear with less resolution. So claiming that textures are far superior seems outlandish to me. Alas this is the problem with Exclusive titles.


Your talking to someone who plays games at 4k resolution on a daily basis. I can easily discern what is a better asset whether its at 900p, 1080p, or 4k.

Ryse also uses a superior method of motion blur but Second Son has better particle effects.

Both have strengths / weaknesses over the other.



Dr.Henry_Killinger on 16 May 2014
BenVTrigger said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

How can you tell though?

No offense, but I'm highly skeptical of how well textures can appear with less resolution. So claiming that textures are far superior seems outlandish to me. Alas this is the problem with Exclusive titles.


Your talking to someone who plays games at 4k resolution on a daily basis. I can easily discern what is a better asset whether its at 900p, 1080p, or 4k.

Ryse also uses a superior method of motion blur but Second Son has better particle effects.

Both have strengths / weaknesses over the other.





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Spade on 16 May 2014
BenVTrigger said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

How can you tell though?

No offense, but I'm highly skeptical of how well textures can appear with less resolution. So claiming that textures are far superior seems outlandish to me. Alas this is the problem with Exclusive titles.


Your talking to someone who plays games at 4k resolution on a daily basis. I can easily discern what is a better asset whether its at 900p, 1080p, or 4k.

Ryse also uses a superior method of motion blur but Second Son has better particle effects.

Both have strengths / weaknesses over the other.

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SvennoJ on 16 May 2014
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

Looking at the screenshots you posted I find Ryse's background rather poor
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6313014
Pretty blurry low res textures on the bridge and ground / rocks. Ryse's characters look amazing, but the geometry and background are lacking imo.
Your Infamous SS picture look more impressive to me.




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EEJLND on 16 May 2014

Ryse and Killzone Shadow Fall are on the same level graphically, but inFamous Second Son beats both of them, and that although it is an open world game, what makes it really impressive!



BenVTrigger on 16 May 2014
SvennoJ said:
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

Looking at the screenshots you posted I find Ryse's background rather poor
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6313014
Pretty blurry low res textures on the bridge and ground / rocks. Ryse's characters look amazing, but the geometry and background are lacking imo.
Your Infamous SS picture look more impressive to me.

Infamous has better texture detail on distanct objects but less complex geometry, thats why I see Ryses geometry as superior. Infamous is mostly straight lines on most surfaces. Ryse utilizes a lot of vegetation, water, different levels of terrain, etc.

Like I said they bith for sure have their strengths and weaknesses and I think as a whole Infamous is probably more impressive due to its level of fidelity in an open world.

Ryse however gives you more of a "Wow" feeling when you see it in motion between the two imo. 



Nirvana_Nut85 on 16 May 2014
BenVTrigger said:
SvennoJ said:
BenVTrigger said:
So I just went back to Ryse since I had been playing a lot of Second Son and honestly Ryse does look better. It has FAR superior texture work and more complex geometry.

That being said Second Son has better lighting and its open world. Its kinda hard to compare the two honestly but in terms of higher fidelity assets Ryse beats Second Son

Looking at the screenshots you posted I find Ryse's background rather poor
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=6313014
Pretty blurry low res textures on the bridge and ground / rocks. Ryse's characters look amazing, but the geometry and background are lacking imo.
Your Infamous SS picture look more impressive to me.

Infamous has better texture detail on distanct objects but less complex geometry, thats why I see Ryses geometry as superior. Infamous is mostly straight lines on most surfaces. Ryse utilizes a lot of vegetation, water, different levels of terrain, etc.

Like I said they bith for sure have their strengths and weaknesses and I think as a whole Infamous is probably more impressive due to its level of fidelity in an open world.

Ryse however gives you more of a "Wow" feeling when you see it in motion between the two imo. 

Couldn't agreewith you more. What really impressed me with Ryse was the Minotaur boss fight.  I'm not a graphics guru like yourself  but the best way I can describe it is that the details/lighting were superb (especially the way the flames reflected off the rocks on the ground).



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Madword on 16 May 2014

I was shocked by the whole blur effect in Ryse that made it look not so great imho. Not sure why no one seems to mention it.



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walsufnir on 16 May 2014

Considering Ryse is a launch game on a console which is often looked at as too weak, it looks amazing.