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DerNebel said:
celador said:
BenVTrigger said:
You guys aren't even prepared for how awful April is.

Hide your kids
Hide your wife.
Dem bombs are dropping.

X1 winning or just general low numbers across the board?

Low numbers across the board.

That's what I was assuming.  I wouldn't say it is unexpected if numbers are really low but it is unfortunate.  Aside from the end of May with MK8 and Watch_Dogs, if numbers are low now then the summer is going to be brutal



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celador said:
BenVTrigger said:
You guys aren't even prepared for how awful April is.

Hide your kids
Hide your wife.
Dem bombs are dropping.

X1 winning or just general low numbers across the board?

It can't be X1 winning, so probably low numbers for everything or ps4 winning by a huge margin. 



    

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BenVTrigger said:
You guys aren't even prepared for how awful April is.

Hide your kids
Hide your wife.
Dem bombs are dropping.


aweful for what consoles. both or xb1? 

who would you say is winning? 



Pirateogta said:
XB1: 92,000 in 13 countries at $500
PS4: 128,000 in 72 countries at $400

If this keeps up, Sony is in big trouble!

Fuck the 72 countries.. PS4 is winning in every country where both are released.

Also in march PS4 sold 60k more than XB1 in the US (XB1's strongest market) despite the $400 PS4 costing more than the $330 XB1. Now the bundles cost $450 but included Titanfall ($60), 1 year of Xbox Live Gold ($60) and Kinect (which alone "makes the Xbox One a better deal" or so I was constantly told some months ago).

No way in hell these figures live up to Microsoft's expectations, now losing money on every sale due to the $50 price cut, loss of income from new Xbox Live Gold members, payment to EA for each copy of Titanfall, huge marketing campaign, etc. I don't wanna see the XB1 struggle but I understand why Microsoft is forced to slow down production rather than lose even more money.

 

Both the PS4 and XB1 will see low sales through the summer but at least the PS4's upcoming games are quite cleverly spread throughout the remaining months of 2014.

April: Daylight and Final Fantasy XIV
May: Watch Dogs (exclusive marketing + bundle), MLB 14, Transistor and Bound by Flame
June: The Last of Us Remaster and The Witness
July: Driveclub (possibly)
August: PlanetSide 2 (possibly)
September: Destiny (exclusive marketing + bundle)
October: Batman: Arkham Knight (exclusive marketing + bundle) and Assassin's Creed: Unity(exclusive marketing + bundle)
November: The Order: 1886 (possibly)



Pirateogta said:
XB1: 92,000 in 13 countries at $500
PS4: 128,000 in 72 countries at $400

If this keeps up, Sony is in big trouble!

If Xb one was in 72 countries it would have sold about 102K for the week. The vast majority of those extra 59 countries only sell 100-200 consoles per week at this time of year.



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I think VGChartz just wants us to get excited with the NPD numbers. :p



DerNebel said:
binary solo said:

Based on rough proportions UK:Europe sales it seems Xb one stayed about the same (11K) and PS4 dropped a bit ( <10K). So Xb one holding on to a weekly lead in the UK for a while now.

There's still a 160K gap but I think it's too much to expect PS4 to turn around a 1.5:1 lead for Xbox 360 and for PS4 to wind up with a substantial lead, or any lead at all for that matter. UK is looking to be very even between PS4 and Xb one.

The PS4 might soon pull ahead of the X1 in the UK again, cause I checked Amazon just now and the Titanfall bundle deal seems to be over, it's back up to 390 pounds, now I don't know about the other retailers but I suspect that if the biggest online retailer is raising his prizes again that the others are going to do the same.

Based in that, can we all not disregar that ps4 is only beating the xbox one mostly because of it's price. They both were 349 pound for last 2 weeks and xbox one was at least 4 rank up ps4.. As soon xbox one went back to 389 it dropped.. This is to show you price is the most important issue .. 



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Ka-pi96 said:
WagnerPaiva said:
Fusioncode said:
Horrendous tracking, can't wait for NPD results to show wrong this site is AGAIN. It's like ioi doesn't want this site to be taken seriously.


What is wrong in your opinion? Also, it must be hell on earth to track sales, so, judos for VGchartz


Exactly this. It's a hard job but ioi generally does well. Clearly we aren't going to get precise 100% accurate figures, NPD doesn't even do that, but we do get a rough idea and nobody here can claim to be able to do it any better.

Actually I'm not to sure that they actually to well in given us numbers. In straight forward weeks they just use the data from professional tracking sites like media create and MCV to come with theire own data. They also take official figures from Sony and MS. When they do go drastically wrong is in weeks that some strange happens like a big launch of a game or a price cut. Because they can't rely on trends based on figures from tracking companies to come up with their own figure to guess the sales for that week. At this point VGC sometimes delays their figures to see what the tracking companies come up with before they put out theirs. Sometime those figures are to far away and they have to get some figures out and this is when they go wrong and expose themselves and that they're not actually using their own data to come up with their figures. Past figures get stealth edited and things go on like nothing happened.

Now this doesn't mean that VGC is a bad site, it isn't. I look at their figures regularly. What's wrong though is that it trys to be something it's not. It's not a professional tracking site in the sense that the actively get store sales data from all over the world. VGC isn't even sure of it's own numbers with and a great example of this was when NPD released their Feb 2014 numbers. VGC didn't stick to it's number, nor did they want to be seen copying NPD again, so they decided to meet NPD numbers in the middle.



SweetTalia said:

Based in that, can we all not disregar that ps4 is only beating the xbox one mostly because of it's price. They both were 349 pound for last 2 weeks and xbox one was at least 4 rank up ps4.. As soon xbox one went back to 389 it dropped.. This is to show you price is the most important issue .. 

It was for a few days, but I saw the PS4 ahead of X1 before the price went back up.  People jumped on the deal when they could get it, then it started to drop



tiffac said:
I think VGChartz just wants us to get excited with the NPD numbers. :p


this really is sad though. I have been following VGC for the past 7 years and right now is the worst I have seen it. Why would PS4 lose to XB1 the month after it beat the XB1 the month it had its biggest release of the year.



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut