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Do you still think WiiU can beat Gamecube lifetime?

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Alby_da_Wolf on 26 April 2014

Yes. GC did that at a lower price and with more big games. Obviously it's a possibility, not a certainty, to make the possible come true Ninty must fix what's still wrong: price, more games and better marketing. An entry level version with a 4.5-5" screen Upad would help too, both lowering costs and pleasing potential users that find the current pad too large (a model WITHOUT pad, splitting the user base, would make more harm than good).



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ps4tw on 26 April 2014

No chance. 3rd party has abandoned the WiiU and first party isn't doing anything to attract attention from anyone than just the hardcore fans.



Zero999 on 26 April 2014
Kasz216 said:

It's a stuggle sure, but i think it has a shot. Not because i have faith in the Wii U, but because I think it will just stick around forever.

If anything I think Nintendo might launch last, I certainly don't see them pulling an early "same specs as the gen that's ending" move like they did this time.


GameCube sales I WANT to say had a HUGE spike at the $99 price range. Some huge sale even getting it to chart when the Wii and PS3 were out.


I could see Wii U just sitting in the 99-150 price range for years, and selling to families essentially as the cheapest Skylanders/Disney Infinite box.  The fact that the PS3 could leg it out for so long more or less shows purchasing patterns have changed somewhat.

 

Of course that's assuming they can get it that cheap, since they bundled it with an expensive controller whose defining feature doesn't seem to be used for much of... anything...

It's a long shot though for sure.

bolded: are you in 2006 or something?



NobleTeam360 on 26 April 2014

No, but I still want a Wii U eventually.



Hynad on 26 April 2014
Zero999 said:
Kasz216 said:

It's a stuggle sure, but i think it has a shot. Not because i have faith in the Wii U, but because I think it will just stick around forever.

If anything I think Nintendo might launch last, I certainly don't see them pulling an early "same specs as the gen that's ending" move like they did this time.


GameCube sales I WANT to say had a HUGE spike at the $99 price range. Some huge sale even getting it to chart when the Wii and PS3 were out.


I could see Wii U just sitting in the 99-150 price range for years, and selling to families essentially as the cheapest Skylanders/Disney Infinite box.  The fact that the PS3 could leg it out for so long more or less shows purchasing patterns have changed somewhat.

 

Of course that's assuming they can get it that cheap, since they bundled it with an expensive controller whose defining feature doesn't seem to be used for much of... anything...

It's a long shot though for sure.

bolded: are you in 2006 or something?

What about you? Are you in 2014 or not?



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t3mporary_126 on 26 April 2014
NightDragon83 said:
MikeRox said:
NightDragon83 said:
Nope, no way. MK8 and SSBU aren't enough to spur sales beyond the diehard Nintendo fanbase and the dwindling number of casuals who still buy Nintendo's products. And once PSOne start kicking things into high gear with huge titles this holiday season along with the inevitable price drops in '15, being the cheapest of the three on the market won't matter much for the Wii U.


How many casuals paid the current Wii U retail price for previous Nintendo consoles? ;)

Those casuals initially bought the Wii for one thing only... Wii Sports, which came packed in with the system.  If the Wii U had a "Wii Sports"-like title packed in with it, instead of charging full price for the likes of glorified shovelware like Nintendo Land, then you can bet it would have flown off shelves at $300-$350.  Price alone had nothing to do with it... you'll notice those same casuals had no problem dropping an additional $100 on the likes of Wii Fit and Rock Band / Guitar Hero.  Just something about plastic peripherals that they can't get enough of... see Skylanders these days.

And I hate to break it to you, but like it or not, "casuals" also helped make the PS4 as scarce as it was during the holidays, because they run out and buy whatever the "hot" item is during the holidays, and the PS4 being $399 didn't stop them from buying it.  Core gamers alone didn't make the PS4 sell out.

Wii Sports HD at launch would have definitely helped. But one might also wonder if the Wii craze may have died at 2012 with the rise and surge of smart phone gaming.

But no doubt Wii Sports HD would be better than Nintendo Land. Heck anything would be better than Nintendo Land.



Ljink96 on 26 April 2014

Keep in mind that software sells hardware and the Gamecube had games readily available for players to enjoy. Right off the bat there was Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart DD, Windwaker, and Smash Bros. There wasn't a 2-3 year wait for those titles.(guestimating).

They also inherited the leftovers from the Dreamcast to add to their library. Wii U only has a few NEW great games right now: Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Sonic Lost World, and Maybe New Super Mario Bros U. other than that, the console's hardware consists of remakes, crappy Wii motion games, and oddballs everywhere. If we are to predict that the Gamecube will outsell the Wii U can we at least wait for Mario Kart, Zelda, and Smash to do what ever damage that they are capable of?



MikeRox on 26 April 2014
Ljink96 said:
Keep in mind that software sells hardware and the Gamecube had games readily available for players to enjoy. Right off the bat there was Super Mario Sunshine, Mario Kart DD, Windwaker, and Smash Bros. There wasn't a 2-3 year wait for those titles.(guestimating).

They also inherited the leftovers from the Dreamcast to add to their library. Wii U only has a few NEW great games right now: Super Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, Sonic Lost World, and Maybe New Super Mario Bros U. other than that, the console's hardware consists of remakes, crappy Wii motion games, and oddballs everywhere. If we are to predict that the Gamecube will outsell the Wii U can we at least wait for Mario Kart, Zelda, and Smash to do what ever damage that they are capable of?


This, along with a more mass market price.



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MikeRox on 26 April 2014
NightDragon83 said:

Those casuals initially bought the Wii for one thing only... Wii Sports, which came packed in with the system.  If the Wii U had a "Wii Sports"-like title packed in with it, instead of charging full price for the likes of glorified shovelware like Nintendo Land, then you can bet it would have flown off shelves at $300-$350.  Price alone had nothing to do with it... you'll notice those same casuals had no problem dropping an additional $100 on the likes of Wii Fit and Rock Band / Guitar Hero.  Just something about plastic peripherals that they can't get enough of... see Skylanders these days.

And I hate to break it to you, but like it or not, "casuals" also helped make the PS4 as scarce as it was during the holidays, because they run out and buy whatever the "hot" item is during the holidays, and the PS4 being $399 didn't stop them from buying it.  Core gamers alone didn't make the PS4 sell out.


I don't think we're talking about the same "casuals". They wouldn't pay $400 for a games console in a million years. Also why would I have a problem with anyone making the PS4 scarce? I had mine pre ordered last February the day they opened so shortages had no impact on me whatsoever.

PS4 is just where most of the 360/PS3 core gamers have migrated to at the moment. A system needs to be around $200 to have any possible chance of selling to the "casuals" who leapt on board the Wii in their droves. The same price point where they were encouraged onto the PS1 for Dance Dance Revolution etc and PS2 for Singstar and Buzz etc. Wii just happened to pretty much launch from that price day 1 meaning that kind of gamer was much more intrigued day 1, though Wii Sports and the Wii Remote also massively helped.



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AZWification on 26 April 2014
iamserious said:

I do think it can pass Gamecube sells (2016?). The system just needs more positive news instead of all this negative crap that all the gaming sites and other sites like Yahoo and such have. Also, Nintendo needs to promote its system much better. Right now Wii U's advert's and promo's suck. They also need to bring out more of the first party games that every one wants. Hopefully they will do this and also bring out games that utilize the features of the Wii U gamepad and also it's motion and NFC capabilities. Also a price drop by the end of 2014 to $250 should also help but I already bought the system and love it so I think others will end up buying the system as well even if as a second system (it is already the cheapest of the three systems).

Reasons to buy the system:

Aside from the already released great games (and upcoming 2nd and to a lesser extent 3rd party games) there will be these 1st party games:

Mario Kart U

Bayonetta 2

Smash Bros U

Monolith's X

Zelda U

Shin Tengami X Fire Emblem

IF they (Nintendo) really wanna sell systems they will also have:

Animal Crossing U

F-Zero U

Megaman U

Pokemon RPG U

Starfox U

Metroid U

Mario Galaxy 3

Kid Icarus U

Earthbound RPG

Mario RPG

Punchout U

These are just examples of games that should help sell Wii U systems. Thank you for your time.

I would be so damn happy if an Earthbound game would actually come out for the WiiU!



                
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