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Absolutely agree. MLB probably won't move as many systems, but it could move a few and it'll sell very well.

Watchdogs will get exclusive marketing for PS4 and the best version will be PS4, it'll be identified as a PS4 game (much like CoD is an Xbox game) and it'll push consoles.

You guys really shouldn't underestimate Last of Us. It's a huge game and a lot of people missed out on it (especially in NA) because they were stuck with 360s. It can definitely move consoles, and it'll sell very well to 360 converts.

Desinty speaks for itself, much like Watchdogs, PS4 will be the best place to play it and it'll have exclusive marketing. Maybe even a bundle, it'll be big.

And the Order will be definitely be their big game. inFamous sold 1 million+ in 9 days, by the time the Order comes out the install base will probably be double, it'll definitely sell very well

Chris Hu said:
sully1311 said:
Can everyone just shut up about MLB The Show now? I'm sick and tired of Chris Hu repeating himself over and over and over and over again. Just wow.


I guess you can't handle the truth either the fact remains MLB The Show isn't a system seller or a big deal.

Just because you don't like baseball, doesn't mean everyone doesn't. MLB has consistently sold pretty well. It's not a big system seller, but it can help and it'll do well. For it's fanbase, it's certainly a big deal. 



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toastboy44562 said:
tbone51 said:
toastboy44562 said:
Xbox has way more apps and features ps4 does not. Xbox has a better existing library and more AAA games coming. Xbox One is getting backwards compatibility, is releasing in more countries, and is getting price cuts! Go Xbox!!!


you need to work for microsoft promotion gaming division team 


I wish! Phil Spencer is a badass. He is like the Putin of gaming!

Not sure thats a good thing to shout about!



Op is right, anyone saying otherwise is in total denial.

MLB wont push that much but Destiny + Watch Dogs + ac unity will push much more PS4 than XB1.

Then about the exclusives, about XB1 , Halo 5 is for 2015, Sunset Overdrive will push like MLB, Quantum Break will push an average amount and the only big release to help XB1 against PS4 is Halo 2 remake, considering the fanbase it will surely push a good amount.

about the PS4, Deep down, Lily Bergamo and MLB will help a bit, Driveclub will push an average amount and The Order will be the big system seller
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Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Chris Hu said:
sully1311 said:
Can everyone just shut up about MLB The Show now? I'm sick and tired of Chris Hu repeating himself over and over and over and over again. Just wow.


I guess you can't handle the truth either the fact remains MLB The Show isn't a system seller or a big deal.


I'm from the UK and couldn't care if it was or wasn't a system seller. I'm not having a go at you, it's just boring that you're saying the same points over and over again and then others keep replying with the same stuff over and over again.



sully1311 said:
Chris Hu said:
sully1311 said:
Can everyone just shut up about MLB The Show now? I'm sick and tired of Chris Hu repeating himself over and over and over and over again. Just wow.


I guess you can't handle the truth either the fact remains MLB The Show isn't a system seller or a big deal.


I'm from the UK and couldn't care if it was or wasn't a system seller. I'm not having a go at you, it's just boring that you're saying the same points over and over again and then others keep replying with the same stuff over and over again.

Damn, hes a ms troll just trolling the sooner you all stop quoting the troll the better.  

this was an ok thread, was. 

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ModBod said:
toastboy44562 said:
tbone51 said:
toastboy44562 said:
Xbox has way more apps and features ps4 does not. Xbox has a better existing library and more AAA games coming. Xbox One is getting backwards compatibility, is releasing in more countries, and is getting price cuts! Go Xbox!!!


you need to work for microsoft promotion gaming division team 


I wish! Phil Spencer is a badass. He is like the Putin of gaming!

Not sure thats a good thing to shout about!

Putin is a real leader, unlike Obama.



Chris Hu said:
MLB will not give it a major boost the game doesn't even sells more then EA's NHL series. The NFL, NBA, and College Football are all more popular sports in the US even NASCAR is catching up to major league baseballs popularity. Also the best selling game in the franchise is MLB 2000 which only sold 940K and came out 15 years ago on the PS1.

I imagine MLB does actually give PS consoles a pretty large boost in the long run. If you want to play a baseball game, you pretty much have buy a PS console if you want something decent.

Over the years MLB probably pulls in a couple hundred thousand customers. Sure it's no Halo or Uncharted, but ignoring it purely because it doesn't sell 5 million per release is pretty silly.

OT: TBH both the PS4 and X1 have a pretty lackluster year. I wouldn't say either is better right now.



pezus said:
spemanig said:
pezus said:
DerNebel said:

bolded: That is absolutely false. Multiplats, just as every other type of game, push consoles. Just look at what GTA pushed last year or what Cod pushes every year. Considering that about 90% of all games are multiplats it is safe to say that multiplats push the majority of consoles.

Agreed. Destiny should be one of the biggest system sellers this year. It will give both PS4 and X1 a boost, but PS4 probably more so due to Sony's deal with Bungie/Activision

I think I'm being misunderstood. I was using hyperbole when saying that multiplats don't push systems. They do, but you're not going to see a situation where having a multiplat like Destiny will give one platform the edge over the other, like what the OP is suggesting. This isn't COD on the 360 anymore. Destiny will sell more on the PS4 than the XBO because the PS4 has a larger installed base, not because the PS4 is "the definitive Destiny console" like what the 360 was to COD. In that light, was I saying that Destiny will push "exactly no PS4's." And by "exactly no," I meant "not enough to be considered at all signifigant."

You won't be seeing a signifigant amount of people specifically purchasing a PS4 over the XBO for Destiny because of any particular benefits that the game has on the PS4 over the XBO is what I'm trying to get across. The "Destiny boost sales" will come from people who want a next get system so badly, but are just waiting for a game to justify the purchase, and are too moronic to realize that a game available on the current gen system they already own isn't a justifiable reason to purchase next gen hardware. These people have already made up their mind on what console they wanted with no regard to Destiny, because it's a multiplat.

Why not? PS4 is the definitive Destiny console. It's exactly like the CoD situation. Exclusive ads, bundles and content are key.


But it's not. Not really, anyway. All that is is marketing jargon. No one buying Destiny for the XBO is feeling jipped or like they're getting a lesser version like with COD on the 360 at the start of last gen. It's absolutely nothing like the COD situation. It wasn't the exclusive content and bundles that sold COD to 360 owners last gen, it was Live, and Sony doesn't have that leg up over Live this gen, even if people agree that Plus is the better service. With Liv, it may as well have been the only service.



 

Chris Hu said:

I highly doubt it will sell much more then 300K the franchise has never come close to selling half as much as Madden on any single console and Madden 25 only sold 600K on the PS4.

MLB 07: The Show PS3 2007 Sports Sony Computer Entertainment 0.28 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.31
Major League Baseball 2K7 PS3 2007 Sports Spike 0.23 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.25
Major League Baseball 2K7 X360 2007 Sports Spike 0.65 0.00 0.00 0.05 0.71

PS3 First Year

MLB 2K7 launched on PS3 and X360 on the week ending March 3 at this point PS3 had a userbase of 1,028,680 and X360 at 4,902,737. MLB 07 The Show launched the week ending May 19th with a userbase of 1,294,421. Now remember at this time PS3 was in not in a good way with gamers, and cost $499.99. 

Major League Baseball 2K6 X360 2006 Sports Spike 0.34 0.00 0.00 0.03 0.37

X360 First Year

MLB 2K6 launched on X360 the week ending April 15th to a userbase of 1,267,720.

 

Now I could go on and on over the years, but I am just going to do this year one comparison. Basically, Baseball games sell around 1,500,000 to 2,000,000 every year across all games, and consoles. X360 sold 370,000 Baseball games its first year, PS3 sold 560,000 Baseball games its first year. 

PS4 already sits at ~3,000,000 sales (USA), which is more than both X360 and PS3 combine in their first year upon Baseballs arrival. Not only that, PS4 has much more popularity, better marketing, and and a cheaper price point. Additionally, MLB 14 The Show will be the only Baseball game on current gen systems.

MLB 14 The Show on PS4 will have an LTD much closer to 1,000,000 than 300,000. 



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Couple of things to take into account.

PS4 is currently selling more than XBO, it has at the moment the public more on it's side. If the XBO price cuts fail to close the gap, why do people assume that when the key games come out, it won't push PS4 hardware further... it seems quite simple really.

MLB: Wont do anything worldwide but will benefit Sony obviously in USA... small bump at least.
WatchDogs is seen as a PS4 game, though poor trailers hasn't necessarily helped.. though again no one has seen XBO version.
Destiny - this is being pushed as a PS4 game, and with a higher user base will definitely sell more on PS4 (and bring more people in to PS4).
Sunset B... I'm expecting this game to fail to be honest with you.
Project Spark: Not actually expecting this to push hardware and would expect any jump to be less than MLB (sports fans are crazy :).
Quantum Break: This is the only game that I think more people will be interested in for XBO (if released this year)... and unfortunately I am not sure its going to sell that great (it might do a Alan wake)... of course if it releases early in the console life (maybe not till 2015) then there is a good chance it will push hardware/sales (fingers crossed it sells well I love Remedy)
The Division, I expect this to be delayed. But even though it might have exclusive DLC for XBO, I expect it to push more PS4 sales.

That's my general opinion on the games, but there is one point about Pushing PS4... it's selling really well, so these games will only improve its lower sales number.. So if the gap is 100k a month, then you can expect these multiplats releases to push that figure higher, and even if its a low number (say MLB only helps push PS4 push an extra 20k consoles say).. this will just increase the gap between the machines.

So for me it all depends on the price cuts from MS, if it will do anything extra, and we have the other countries for MS in september, so we may see it close the gap in the monthly figures some. Of course Sony in previous years has seen itself do well Jan to August and MS have caught back up in the holiday months. If Sony can ensure enough stock and still have forward momentum, it may be a totally different story this year.



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