Therein lies you problem. FPS is not te determining factor of Power.

I have seen Cards do higher FPS but present the visuals worse. 

It is the same setthings with the same architecture lol

You can't be serious.

Desperate?

Seems there are more posts here desperately trying to disprove the theory against someone who actually knows what he's talking about.... Certainly knows more than me.

Are people really that desperate to justify their purchase here? Sad and hilarious at once.

Not saying 100% will happen but a big improvement is coming.

I would agree with you in most of it... and I agree that perhaps MS is a little behind in SDK development...

And I agree the gap won't be massive (it isn't even now, and for some it almost doesn't exist)... even at 30-50% advantage that PS4 could have (could stay the same or drop a little) the perceived advantage of PS4 will probably be lesser and lesser for most people. Nothing that would make X1 seem weak, just warriors will fight over it for one side or the other...

Just to add to the guys that are reading...

The difference in RAW POWER between HD 7790 and HD 7870 is about 43% (I choose this example due the PS4 vs Xbone have the same difference).

But the game Crysis 3 performers 50% bettter because like PS4 vs Xbone the HD 7870 have 32ROPs agains only 16ROPs of the HD 7790.

So the RAW POWER shows a gap even better in performance due the additional units in the GPU.

Please check you spelling, it is getting closer to mrx spelling skills.

Again, I must point you to the recent Build conference where an ms tech guy talked about hardware/software features and wherein he specifically made the point that the graph driver(s) in the X1 contained the key points of what will be called DX12 on pcs, right on launch of the console. Of course developers could use these features long before launch.

And again, tiling takes away space from esram memory, it does not magically create more available esram for higher resolutions. In fact, if you want higher resolution, you have to think really, really, really hard how you set up tiled resources, gBuffers, frame buffers, and how to organize the data flow of this mess. This is the very reason why X1 software up to now lags behind PS4 software (as far as graphical features/res/fps are concerend).

And again again, the point of DX12 (on the pc) is the removal of intermediate driver calls (what is generally summed up as "coding to the metal"). The DX12 development direction is XBox One driver code --> PC driver code (we can argue all day if that was triggered by the relative success of Mantle on amd pcs). It is perfectly ok to yell "Games will run twice as fast", if, and only if, you add the disclaimer that this is valid for PC games and combinations of poor cpus with strong gpus (preferrably dual gpus). The disclaimer is not valid for the XBox One which features a combination of medium cpu and gpu.

Wow, that would be cool. It's already really nice.

Course some maths people do here would make it nearly 50% more powerful than the another console. But that other one never does anything I asked it to do, so I think I'm good the way things are.

I'm not sure they know what the word double means.

Secret sauce all over the face. LOL

Thank You.