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Areym on 05 April 2014
Nem said:
Are we still entertaining ideas that the Wii U isnt next gen? For a non next gen system it sure is producing really good looking games that rival the so called "true" next-gen systems.

But does it really? It's not like you can compare this and Infamous SS or Titanfall on the xbox one. A fair comparison is knack, since they have similar artstyle (cartoonish) and MK8 mops the floor with Knack.



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Zekkyou on 05 April 2014
Ryudo said:
Zekkyou said:

You are forgetting how optimized the PS3 and 360 are vs the WiiU. The PS3 and 360 can run games like Halo 4 and TLOU on 500MB of ram, the minimum spec requirement for COD on PC is 6GB :P Comparing the performance of the last gen and next gen consoles is a tad silly right now, since the difference in their optimization makes their power difference a lot smaller. Hence games tend to improve so much during a gen.

If the PS3 can run GT6 at 1440x1080/55-60fps, then it could easily run MK8 at 1280x720/30fps. I agree the PS3 and 360 couldn't achieve the full 60fps the WiiU is pulling off, but the game itself is nothing special.

As i said to someone else, MK8 is essentially a 7th gen game running at 8th gen performance lvels. It's still a beautiful looking game, but that's thanks to Nintendo's artistic skill, not any kind of technical achievement.

The WiiU will have much better demonstrations of it's power in the future, but MK8 is not one of them.


Another retard. Hey PS3 has 256 dumbass

Huh, so it has even less than i thought? Thanks for proving my point even more :) TLOU on only 256MB of ram. The power of optimization.



Conegamer on 05 April 2014

Woah woah woah, let's calm down. There's no need for such hostility in here.

Also, I'd greatly appreciate it if people could cut down on quoting the GIFs posted earlier; my poor phone can't handle all the awesome.



 

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Cheebee on 05 April 2014
Einsam_Delphin said:
Cheebee said:
Einsam_Delphin said:


I heard they were using real instruments this time, so that must be the explanation! Mario Kart Stadium sounds fan-freakin-tastic aswell! I rewatched the trailer over and over again just to listen to it moar! ^_^

That's awesome. Didn't know that, but it sure sounds like it, yes! Also, the best piece of music was the retro Rainbow Road, easily. :p So much nostalgia. T_T That track looks positively insane, too. I can't even begin to imagine what the new Rainbow Road will be like, especially since they said it's going to be truly special, really something else.

Just 54 more days.



Meh, nostalgia is overrated! MK Stadium for best MK music ever!!!

Also do you live in Japan? If not, I think it should be 55 more days unless I miss counted.

No, I live in Europe. Well it was about 54 days and 1 hour when I posted that, it's exactly 54 days now. Until midnight of may 30th over here, that is. According to my computer's MK8 countdown, anyway!



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the_dengle on 05 April 2014

The road textures make me laugh. They could have gone with flat colors and no one would have even noticed the difference. Instead, in the high-res screen grabs you can see the asphalt has this super-detailed gravelly texture. Nintendo, you so silly.



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archbrix on 05 April 2014
ICStats said:
Viper1 said:
ICStats said:
Lovely. This is what Nintendo fans missed out on while they were playing Wii instead a PS3 or 360 class hardware.

So what exactly woudl they have played kart wise that is equal to or greater?

That wasn't the point - the point is had Nintendo been up to date with hardware you would have had this game in 07~08 instead of 14.

Up to date?  Isn't the WiiU's GPU supposed to be around the performance of a Radeon HD 4600?  Those hadn't even released in 2006, so its unlikely that you could've had MK8 as it exists today with hardware released in 2006.  And even if you could, as Viper1 pointed out, it would have been prohibitively expensive for a console.



ICStats on 05 April 2014
archbrix said:
ICStats said:
Viper1 said:
ICStats said:
Lovely. This is what Nintendo fans missed out on while they were playing Wii instead a PS3 or 360 class hardware.

So what exactly woudl they have played kart wise that is equal to or greater?

That wasn't the point - the point is had Nintendo been up to date with hardware you would have had this game in 07~08 instead of 14.

Up to date?  Isn't the WiiU's GPU supposed to be around the performance of a Radeon HD 4600?  Those hadn't even released in 2006, so its unlikely that you could've had MK8 as it exists today with hardware released in 2006.  And even if you could, as Viper1 pointed out, it would have been prohibitively expensive for a console.

Wii U's GPU is > PS3 & 360 for sure, plus has more available RAM,  but it's CPU actually seems weaker - so I think you could have had MK8 7 years ago, in 720p instead of 1080p, and maybe with smaller textures.



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RCTjunkie on 05 April 2014

While I still stand by my belief that graphics don't matter, this game is VERY beautiful to look at. Excited in all aspects.



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ICStats on 05 April 2014
Zekkyou said:
Ryudo said:
Zekkyou said:

You are forgetting how optimized the PS3 and 360 are vs the WiiU. The PS3 and 360 can run games like Halo 4 and TLOU on 500MB of ram, the minimum spec requirement for COD on PC is 6GB :P Comparing the performance of the last gen and next gen consoles is a tad silly right now, since the difference in their optimization makes their power difference a lot smaller. Hence games tend to improve so much during a gen.

If the PS3 can run GT6 at 1440x1080/55-60fps, then it could easily run MK8 at 1280x720/30fps. I agree the PS3 and 360 couldn't achieve the full 60fps the WiiU is pulling off, but the game itself is nothing special.

As i said to someone else, MK8 is essentially a 7th gen game running at 8th gen performance lvels. It's still a beautiful looking game, but that's thanks to Nintendo's artistic skill, not any kind of technical achievement.

The WiiU will have much better demonstrations of it's power in the future, but MK8 is not one of them.


Another retard. Hey PS3 has 256 dumbass

Huh, so it has even less than i thought? Thanks for proving my point even more :) TLOU on only 256MB of ram. The power of optimization.

It's incorrect, PS3 has 256MB main RAM + 256MB dedicated GPU RAM for a total of 512.



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Pemalite on 05 April 2014
Ryudo said:

For anyone who thinks this can run on PS3/360. MK8 to even run on PC would have to be developed with a 64bit OS in mind and PC games a good lot of them still develop under 32 bit.

Oh and guess what Mario kart has had 3 arcade games and the 2013 version is not running on triforce but a baord stronger than PS3/360 and this is the result

So even that 360 and PS3 would need a downgrade.

MK8 is both technically impressive and artistically. The game is the best looking console game to date. period.


You don't need a 64bit OS to run any WiiU game.
The main push for 64bit OS's on the PC is mostly due to pushing games past the 4Gb of Ram barrier, which isn't a problem for any WiiU game on a technical basis, due to the console only having 2Gb of Ram with 1Gb of that used exclusively for the OS.

Gustaf89 said:
im really sick of people saying "artistically is great, thecnically not so much"... PEOPLE. you need the TECH to pull out your Art Vision, The Wii U is capable for what Nintendo developers want to do, and that should be it. and if Nintendo can make games look so good on a "weak" hardware, the 3rd party should as well, I mean, Game budgets above the 100 millions and they can port a game correctly? give me a break

But it's the truth? Technically this is NOT a marvel, on a technical level we had PC games exceed this 7 years ago.
We have reached a point in this day and age where art can have a much larger impact than it used to, it can make or break a good/bad looking game.
This is obviously not an issue for Nintendo with it's great artistic flair' that it uses for it's titles, if anything they should be commended for it.


Zekkyou said:

You are forgetting how optimized the PS3 and 360 are vs the WiiU. The PS3 and 360 can run games like Halo 4 and TLOU on 500MB of ram, the minimum spec requirement for COD on PC is 6GB :P Comparing the performance of the last gen and next gen consoles is a tad silly right now, since the difference in their optimization makes their power difference a lot smaller. Hence games tend to improve so much during a gen.

If the PS3 can run GT6 at 1440x1080/55-60fps, then it could easily run MK8 at 1280x720/30fps. I agree the PS3 and 360 couldn't achieve the full 60fps the WiiU is pulling off, but the game itself is nothing special.

As i said to someone else, MK8 is essentially a 7th gen game running at 8th gen performance lvels. It's still a beautiful looking game, but that's thanks to Nintendo's artistic skill, not any kind of technical achievement.

The WiiU will have much better demonstrations of it's power in the future, but MK8 is not one of them.


Bad example.
Does COD list 6Gb of ram as a minimum requirement on the box? Heck yes.
Does COD on PC look better than any console? Heck yes, pump up the resolution to 1440P/1600P, apply exhorbant amounts of AA and AF and you're there.

Does COD actually use 6Gb of ram? Lol, no. - A "hack" was released that circumvented that, plus developers have now removed that limitation if I recall correctly.
Also ironic how COD is one of the ugliest multi-platform games ever to grace the PC.

archbrix said:

Up to date?  Isn't the WiiU's GPU supposed to be around the performance of a Radeon HD 4600?  Those hadn't even released in 2006, so its unlikely that you could've had MK8 as it exists today with hardware released in 2006.  And even if you could, as Viper1 pointed out, it would have been prohibitively expensive for a console.


The Wii U's GPU is probably a bit more modern than the 4650/4670.
It's more-or-less based on one of the VLIW5 architectures, most likely a heavily modified Radeon 6450/6570, with an increase ALU count.
However due to it's heavily customised nature it doesn't really compare directly to any desktop class graphics processor.

It would easily make the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 look simply archaic from a feature standpoint.




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