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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 25 March 2014
CleggaZ said:
Glad to see they got this guy away from lionhead.
Peter Molyneux>Michael Pachter

I'm a go ahead and disagree with you there.

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Luck on 25 March 2014

Comparing a style of music to a production/distribution model.

Sound logic.



Alby_da_Wolf on 25 March 2014

He's not wrong, but he's quite stating the obvious: right now indies have a lot of room in the new gen, but when more AAA games will arrive, they'll overshadow them, not to mention that some of the bost successful indies will become "big" devs and natural selection on the remaining indies and new ones will be needed to replace them.



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Ataraxias on 25 March 2014
Acevil said:
VanceIX said:
Acevil said:
VanceIX said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Considering how many bad indie games steam has, I wouldn't doubt it... Out of every awesome indie game on steam, there are many more bad ones and I hate the concept of Early Access that indies seem to have cause since most of the time, they don't furfill what they promised and you already paid for it


Early access is one thing that I hope really does die. A terrible way to develop a game, imo.

Crowd-funded indie games as well. Some are good, but most are just terrible. 


What is wrong with crowd funded indie games? I really don't get it, it is way for games to exist.

You take money from a person with lofty promises and limited information. People get on board because of flashy incentives, and then usually the project doesn't pan out completely. Crowd-funding usually doesn't raise enough money to develop a full sized game anyway, which is what a lot of the people advertise. Most projects raise what, $100,000-200,000? A lot of that cash goes to paying salaries, and then the bit that is left over is used to make a game that is a shell of what people expected. 

Um can you name examples, because I have yet to see someone feeling that what they paid didn't live up to some expectations. Ya Double Fine might be of an example where they got way too much money and most of it did most likely go into somewhats pocket, but the game still is excellent peace of work.





Zero999 on 25 March 2014

just like the home consoles weren't supposed to last? seriously, many indies are making better games than most AAA that only focus on graphics. Indies will keep on growing.



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Ataraxias on 25 March 2014
Acevil said:
VanceIX said:
Acevil said:
VanceIX said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Considering how many bad indie games steam has, I wouldn't doubt it... Out of every awesome indie game on steam, there are many more bad ones and I hate the concept of Early Access that indies seem to have cause since most of the time, they don't furfill what they promised and you already paid for it


Early access is one thing that I hope really does die. A terrible way to develop a game, imo.

Crowd-funded indie games as well. Some are good, but most are just terrible. 


What is wrong with crowd funded indie games? I really don't get it, it is way for games to exist.

You take money from a person with lofty promises and limited information. People get on board because of flashy incentives, and then usually the project doesn't pan out completely. Crowd-funding usually doesn't raise enough money to develop a full sized game anyway, which is what a lot of the people advertise. Most projects raise what, $100,000-200,000? A lot of that cash goes to paying salaries, and then the bit that is left over is used to make a game that is a shell of what people expected. 

Um can you name examples, because I have yet to see someone feeling that what they paid didn't live up to some expectations. Ya Double Fine might be of an example where they got way too much money and most of it did most likely go into somewhats pocket, but the game still is excellent peace of work.

Star Command

Not 1 but 2 kickstarter campaigns and the end result is a cobbled togethered mess of mediocre minigames and a developer that curses at his fans.

Or as one reviewer put it the game's origins on the social funding website Kickstarter is "ultimately much more interesting than the game itself"



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 25 March 2014
pezus said:
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:

Considering how many bad indie games steam has, I wouldn't doubt it... Out of every awesome indie game on steam, there are many more bad ones and I hate the concept of Early Access that indies seem to have cause since most of the time, they don't furfill what they promised and you already paid for it

Uhm, that's exactly how it is with non-indie games as well. Difference being that ideas that publishers deny are allowed to live with indies.

Well, granted there are bad AAA games as well but I am talking about quantity since there are new indie steam games like every 2 weeks if not every week with majority of them not being up to par or being entire clones of other games. Sure, there are some gems but majority of them are just throw away games and when people pay for Early Access, that makes it even worse



                  

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think-man on 25 March 2014

Couldn't come fast enough, Im tired on indie honestly.



 

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KingCherry on 26 March 2014

He's created & co-created 3 studios Bullfrog, Lionhead and now 22 Cans... He's been heavily involved in some great games, such as Populous, Dungeon Keeper, Syndicate, Black & White & Fable... Brainless? Really?



Porcupine_I on 26 March 2014

I'm still waiting for people to get tired of those horseless carriages.



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