You cannot just sum up random numbers, especially if some systems were released many months ago. And if you imagine Zelda OOT and Mario 3D Land on Ipad, and Android, it would sell extremely well given the huge user base of over several 100 million units. Billions of Dollars for Nintendo without any effort would be easily earned.

The only other option they have is releasing an own smart phone but if they don't they will die out slowly since the classic handheld market has no future. In 10 years from now, these devices may not exist anymore.

And Vgchartz get thgeir numbers from sources that actually are reliable like NPD.

See guys, year head starts are totz legit.

I never said it wouldn't impact sales. I said that it won't put the Xbone on top. Yes, without Halo the original Xbox wouldn't have sold as well as it did. But even WITH Halo, it still came up 130+ short lol. That's my point.

I don't think so. If it was a true Xb one exclusive (i.e. a very strong incentive for 360 owners to upgrade), and there was a worldwide US$50 equivalent price cut I might agree. Or if this had been halo 5. But TF will do very litte for HW sales after about 3-4 weeks on the market, or at least until the free giveaway bundle runs out. You seem to be buying in to the TF uberhype, which doesn't seem like you.

If we say 55K is the current sustained level of Xb1 sales, then +10% for all remaining markets and +10% for long term TF effect (and most of that +10% will be USA) means 66K is the new baseline. 80K+ requires a global price cut and / or flagship true exclusive i.e. Halo 5. What we will have a bit of an indicator of is the effect of the GBP30 price cut in the UK. If that gives Xb one a long term 3-4K lift then post TF baseline could be 70K once all other markets are in (what's the timeline on that btw for the next 37 markets?). To get to 80K from just TF and selling in most of the minor markets requires a 45% lift in baseline sales, how do you figure TF can achieve a 25-30% lift in baseline? I can see 20% for North America, sure, and perhaps UK too (esp with the official price cut there). But in the rest of the markets, where Xb one is virtually irrelevant right now? Short term boost absolutely, long term effect virtually nil.

And my point is that one huge FPS matters,  if Halo CE bombed the Xbox would never sold more than GC and probably would have sold less than 15 or 10 million.   The popularity of Halo CE made MS matter a lot about the online community and attracted other shooters like Doom 3/Far cry/Half life 2 but also many pc games like Morowind because their was a market who love shooters and pc gamers.....And yes it did not made the Xbox sell great but it created the view for the future for Xbox and that is what X360 became a console made and create online community with especially shooters and that made the X360 the king in some markets..      so yeah in my book one FPS topgame can matter a lot... I don't believe Titanfall will influence much but I could eat crow...

Our figures are off. They suggest a rise for WiiU in February but not one for XB1 (actually it's trending down) Feb always sees a rise. XB1 is likely doing 45k in the US alone weekly right now, for a total of 180k in Feb NPD, which is up 40k from Jan which is the same % the other consoles have seen in the past.

I could be proven wrong, but I don't think I will.

Bad week to quote VGC with the PS4 just releasing, but good article. WiiU is selling 80% as well as the XB1, and like the XB, both systems do typically benefit from strong US holiday sales.

I just really hope Mario Kart can boost sales. Mario Kart has always been that "killer app" for Nintendo consoles. A new Wii Sports with a retail release would be nice too.

Now that I think of the total Ninty hardware sales (3ds, Wii U and Wii consoles), I see how there hardware business is really no worse than Microsoft's, and no one says Microsoft should exit the hardware business. I think some people really need to see the cold hard facts of the matter, that is, Nintendo hardware is not doomed like detractors and haters would like everyone to believe.

LOL what? You can't be serious.

Anyway, this is a really really poor way of looking at things. It doesn't take into account profits/losses on that hardware, or software and paywalls ect.

MS are currently much healthier with their gaming business than Nintendo are theirs. The Xbox One has just released and has a future, the WiiU and 3DS are uncertain, they're not responding to Nintendo's interventions and 3DS has already had its peak year.