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Forums - Gaming - So Xbox One doomed ? But why has Titanfall 130k more pre orders than SS ?

Aerys said:

and... " why has titanfall 130k more pre orders than SS " ...Is it a real question ? My question makes more sense" why has titanfall only 130k more pre orders than SS ? " considering we're talking of a shooter by COD dev.


Yeah

Dumb title imo

Why is a FPS preorder numbers higher then a... super hero game? in the USA? Kind of answers itself

Didn't Killzone outsell Ryse? I don't even know if it did. Just assume it since KZ is an FPS 



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370k, that's less than the 3.5 million xb1 out there right now... I mean, you can still have pretty decent sales number on a system that does not sell that well as long as the attach rate of the game in question is very high, especially when you take into account that the system that sells less has less games as well, people have less choice so they jump on any decent title coming to their system, examples of this are found throughout the history of consoles:

N64: Mario 64, the Zelda and Mario Kart games

OG xbox: Halo 1 and 2 (maybe others)

there may be more, but it tells you that Titanfall can and will sell pretty well, I am pretty sure it will be the best selling game in March too... even if it probably only double or even triple the weekly sales of xbox machines on the week of its release.

Note that I may be wrong, it could be a game changer, but given that there is a 360 version and a PC version I doubt it will make a long therm difference in therms of how the xb1 is percieved (badly) especially with the frame rate drops and the relatively low resolution of this version... also, the fact that you need a yearly Gold membership to play is at all means a lot of people will pass it altogether.



The US is the only country the X1 will even be worth it's salt in the market, but winning in the US could go either way. The fact of the matter is that the PS4 is selling out everywhere, so most people trying to get the thing haven't been able to yet. The X1 on the other hand will only see a small temporary boost in sales for Titanfall and Halo is still far off, far enough for the gap to widen enough that Halo alone won't close it completely (especially if MS doesn't come up with any BIG releases for holiday 2014).

Only time will tell, but I'm going to bank on the PS4 winning the US as well but by a smaller number in the long run. If the PS4 wasn't still selling out I might think different, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Not to mention the boost from Infamous SS and The Order 1886. Pre Orders only say so much, and don't speak for lifetime sales.



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The goal in North America for Sony should have been to achieve parity with Microsoft after how much it lost of it last gen. Anything above that is a bonus. Right now Sony is doing fine with the lead they have (which I did not expect) to serve as a buffer for the next few months and then E3 will tell much of how rest of 2014 will play out.



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well, first of all XBone is not doomed; Sony is just doing a lot better, but that does not mean XBox is finished.   Titanfall will do fine, but it's just one game, and it is also available on PC. After an initial boost, Xbone numbers will go down again.  I believe the main problem of Xbone is MS mainly focusing on NA; on the other hand, PS4 is very strong everywhere, so strong that it will dominate in the global figure.    I don't see Europe interested in this One, and the selling numbers speak for themselves; only 10-11k per week, which is embarassing. Also, Xbone will be available in limited stocks in Japan, and also very weak in The rest of the World.

This is why I think PS4 will have a 60-70% of market share at the end of this generation.



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Shiken said:

The US is the only country the X1 will even be worth it's salt in the market, but winning in the US could go either way. The fact of the matter is that the PS4 is selling out everywhere, so most people trying to get the thing haven't been able to yet. The X1 on the other hand will only see a small temporary boost in sales for Titanfall and Halo is still far off, far enough for the gap to widen enough that Halo alone won't close it completely (especially if MS doesn't come up with any BIG releases for holiday 2014).

Only time will tell, but I'm going to bank on the PS4 winning the US as well but by a smaller number in the long run. If the PS4 wasn't still selling out I might think different, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Not to mention the boost from Infamous SS and The Order 1886. Pre Orders only say so much, and don't speak for lifetime sales.


We share the same reasoning. 



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Who said it was doomed? I mean just because the PS4 is selling more at a faster pace....that in NO WAY spells "doom". Me personally I just think a lot of people are caught up in the "console wars" and that's where all the "doom" comes from.

Anyway I TOTALLY expect and Titanfall on XB1 to outsell Infamous: SS on PS4. It will also help MS and the XB1 out on their current sales by giving them a nice little boost. Anyway it is WAY to early in the generation for the "doom" card to be played.



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foodfather said:
Xbox success in NA was given, just how PS4 success in EU and Japan is a given. Having said that, I find the Xbox Ones performance more of an astonishing feat with all the negativity and hatred the last year or so.

March 11. Let the domination and butthurt commence.


Will I agree with the Xbox Success in NA and the PS4's in EU and Japan....I don't get why anyone would be butthurt. And when you say "domination" what exactly do you mean? Like are yous aying the XB1 will start to dominate the PS4 is sales when Titanfall releases or are you talking about you personally dominating people online whent he game comes out? I am just wondering that's why I was asking.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
DerNebel said:
Not that I think this pre order argument makes alot of sense but let's just say this: The US won't be the X1s problem.

Outside of NA and the UK is where the X1 might soon become "doomed"


Halo, Gears and Titanfall are all on one platform this gen. If you're a competitive shooter fan you know where to go. Between the three of those games that spells over twenty million potential copies, per game and I am not even bringing COD or Battlefield into it. Microsoft knows what they are doing. 

If you want a big country where MS has no shot its Japan, not Europe. Europe might be Sony land but they the 360 opened their minds because Microsoft got the third parties to put their games on the 360.

Lol, sorry but that argument is weak. Look at the sales of Halo 4 and Gears 3, of its 9 million sales Halo 4 got 7 million in NA and the UK according to Vgchartz, Gears is similar, of 6 million sales it got 4.5 million in NA and the UK, those games were no game changers for the 360 in continental Europe and they won't be for the X1. And adding Titanfall into the mix won't change that, especially since it's also available on PC and you still have an extremely strong PC market in Europe.

If MS opened Europes minds with the 360, which they did with a ton of help from a Sony who fucked up everything they could if I might add that, then they're closing it again fast with the X1.