Mr Puggsly said:
I don't care, but I guess you do. |
Quite astute, aren't we?
Mr Puggsly said:
I don't care, but I guess you do. |
Quite astute, aren't we?
I like the fact that this guy doesn't give a shit and tells it like it is. If MS neglected them and acted unprofessional then I don't see why they would hold punches.
kitler53 said: you know what puggsly,.. i absolutely agree with you here. the disasterous launch focusing on kinect and tvtvtvsports. the disasterous DRM policies. the disasterously high price. clearly, MS was trying their absolute hardest to fail. launching a successful product probably never crossed MS's mind... |
Well if they launched the X1 like originally planned the sales would be MUCH worse. I believe pre-orders reflected that.
Launching a successful product and being the market leader is not the same thing.
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Shinobi-san said:
PS3 can sell at 50$ for all i care. If Sony didnt support the console with good exclusives and 3rd parties didnt bring their most wanted games..then it doesnt matter what price the PS3 was at it wouldnt sell. That argument about price being everything is really baseless, so i dont buy it. |
You're speaking as if price doesn't have a huge impact on sales.
People wanted the PS3 simply because many owned a PS2. But price drove them away.
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badgenome said:
Probably something like, "What the fuck is a C4 Engine?" |
LOL
Mr Puggsly said:
People wanted the PS3 simply because many owned a PS2. But price drove them away. |
Nah its more like your speaking as if price is everything. You were the one who brought up price like 4 times in a row...
You are saying that MS isnt going for market leader becuase X1 is at a higher price. Thats really not a logical thing to say. Given that MS didnt know what price PS4 was at. In any case its not price alone that sells, the more important factor is value. MS backed themselves with their Kinect push. they obviously thought they could show the value of Kinect whether it be with system integration or games etc. That risk hasnt paid off exactly as planned it seems as they have lost ground in markets they already were market leaders in.
You actually saying that MS decided to purposefully lose market share? I highly doubt it. Im sorry but lets just agree to disagree. If you dont see the fallacies in your argument at this point then you never will. And we will keep going. I am tired. Good night.
Shinobi-san said:
Nah its more like your speaking as if price is everything. You were the one who brought up price like 4 times in a row... |
Okay, so we're going to pretend PS3's poor sales at $599 and mega sales at $299 was a coincidence. Price had nothing to do with turning sales around.
Sony went from the best selling console of all time to... struggling to achieve sales at par with the 360. Price obviously had very little to do with that.
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That C4 engine sure is 'explosive'
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Mr Puggsly said:
Okay, so we're going to pretend PS3's poor sales at $599 and mega sales at $299 was a coincidence. Price had nothing to do with turning sales around. Sony went from the best selling console of all time to... struggling to achieve sales at par with the 360. Price obviously had very little to do with that. |
Il say this again.You brought up price as if it was everything. My rebuttal to that was that price is NOT everything and that perceived value is key. I DID NOT say price has no impact on sales. Its funny because perceived value is quite reliant on price as well
You clearly are a Xbox fanboy.
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