They dont owe it at all, I agree. They dont have to do anything. Id just feel incredibly screwed if I bought a console ready for Titanfall, when I could have just waited the 3 Months after launch and saved myself £80.

Fuck, imagine how someone who went out and bought an Xbox One after playing the Titanfall beta with a friend feels. Its not just about the people who bought the Xbox One at launch, its the people who have been buying the Xbox One with hopes/hype from Titanfall since launch. £80 is a lot of money for a lot of people.

Many games get released and cut a few Weeks/Months later. This is the norm and its expected. A console getting a pricecut isnt the norm just 3 Months after release. If the machine was worth the launch asking price, it wouldnt be struggling so badly at retail. The fact is that games make a system worth the price, and the Xbox One simply doesnt have the library to justify a £430 pricepoint... Thats why we are seeing the cut so early, because theyre just not being competitive.

The whole point is, they have announced a pricecut just three months after launch. Its unheard of. For a comparison, the Xbox 360 hasnt had a permanent pricecut to the mass market model since 2008! Its not the fact that theyre cutting the price, or that theyre bundling Titanfall for free thats the problem. Its that its happening so soon after launch.

Maybe saying Microsoft are screwing people is wrong. I can agree with that. People will feel screwed though. It would be nice of them to offer something for the early adopters at least, or for people who have a Titanfall preorder already in place.

I agree. Not everyone is into online shooters. But there is easily what 15 mill gamers who buy and play online shooters. All the COD sales are for its online, not its SP which is pretty slated every review. BF also. The only real shooter on console which also has MP that is bought for story is Halo. Its story has over 6 mill people following on it according to the special features on Halo 3's disc. That was back in 2007.

But Titanfall is going to perk the interest of the online shooter lovers in both MS and Sony camps.

I didnt say PS4 wasnt more powerful, I am simply stating that the reason the res difference you see currently is as devs have said, down to the SDK. The difference wont be so big come 2nd gen games.

Early adopting has it's prices. Those people played an X1 for a few months or less now, which in response to this I could say it is a early adopter tax. Also, 360's first official price cut was august 2007, coinciding with Bioshock's release, and it would make 0 sense to price cut in 2006 when both its competitors didn't even launch yet.

Theres going to be so many people backtracking when PS4 isnt killing in visuals from xmas 2014 onwards. Hell apart from some res stuff, its arguably Ryse thats the best looking game till Infamous 2nd son drops.

Again, Ill listen to the developers of the last 6 months thanks.

Id o agree there are A LOT of people who love to play online shooters. More than 15mil is you ask me. But that doesn't mean that they love ALL online shooters. For instance I am not into Halo nor BF online. But love playing COD and KZ online. So while I personally think Titanfall is fun not every online shooter fan will feel the same. So all those fans won't go for it(even though I think A LOT will). And REALLY can't see teh people who went out and bought a PS4 trading it in just for XB1 and Titanfall especially when they can get the same game on 360 and for cheaper as well.

Don't get me wrong I think Titanfall will do GREAT and hope it does as well seeing as when I get my XB1 next year I will be picking it up. And give it a VERY nice boost in UK and US more than anywhere else. But I don't see this being enough to make the Xb1 outsell the PS4 for the rest of the year. Also while you are right 2nd gen games will look better with the better optimization of hardware. That also means that the XB1 and PS4 will both be better optimized. So I think the difference will remain the same personally. Though of course I could be wrong.

August 2007? Almost two years after launch? Thanks.

Okay how about this - You didnt get an Xbox One at launch. Instead, you went out and bought one after trying the Titanfall beta. Today you see this news - How do you feel?

I agree. Not everyone is into online shooters. But there is easily what 15 mill gamers who buy and play online shooters. All the COD sales are for its online, not its SP which is pretty slated every review. BF also. The only real shooter on console which also has MP that is bought for story is Halo. Its story has over 6 mill people following on it according to the special features on Halo 3's disc. That was back in 2007.

But Titanfall is going to perk the interest of the online shooter lovers in both MS and Sony camps.

I didnt say PS4 wasnt more powerful, I am simply stating that the reason the res difference you see currently is as devs have said, down to the SDK. The difference wont be so big come 2nd gen games.

Still waiting for an explanation how a 40% weaker gpu can be offset by a SDK. Also, please explain why Sony SDK cannot improve as well?? That's what I thought.

As I said. Im referring to why current titles are not 1080p on Xbox One. Its due to poor SDK for proper implementation to ESRAM. Nothing to do with the GPU. And yes Sony will improve  their SDK. But that doesnt stray from the fact MS were behind, especially on using the ESRAM effectively. Every developer has statted the downed res was due to 32 mb ESRAM. The new Tiling technique in the updated SDK has solved this. This was never about GPU.