Closer to 60k, but pretty much.

MKWii is the biggest unbundled game of all time, though GTA V might soon knock it off its throne

There's no hope of it pulling above gamecube numbers. It's gonna be as big of a failure as the dreamcast was considering that both of those systems will hit less than 15 mil lifetime.

Right now the Wii U obviously isn't doing very well but there is still a long way to go before it can officially be written off as a failure.

- We all think of the Nintendo DS as one of the biggest successes in the history of gaming, and rightfully so being that it is the 2nd best selling console of all time by far, but in it's 1st 2 years it only sold 20 million consoles. At the rate it was going it was going to be Nintendos worst selling handheld of all time and the PSP was a serious threat to Nintendos handheld domination. After 2 years though they released the much nicer DS Lite model for only $150 and the fat model was dropped to $120. This was after games like Mario Kart, Nintendogs, and Animal Crossing were already releases, none of which had a massive impact on sales right away. Things radically changed though once their was a price drop, a new model, and a massive hit in New Super Mario Bros.

- We still don't know what Nintendo has in it's bag of tricks yet. Zelda Wii U exists. We have no idea what it is yet, but if the producers hints that he was very influenced by Skyrim, along with seeing how ALBW got back to basics, are any indication, this next Zelda could be freaking amazing. Pokemon U exists. It most likely is a fighting game, (not like that is a bad thing) but something is in the works. Animal Crossing U. For Japan atleast this would be massive. It's the 2nd best selling game on the 3DS and even outsold Monster Hunter 4 by a pretty decent margin. Metroid Prime U. In the day and age of the FPS, this really can't hurt, especially if it has a big online mode. New Miyamoto IP. Could be massive, could be a niche thing, who knows. The bottom line to me is that there are alot of unannounced titles that still have a chance of being that one game to really spark Wii U sales. For as much as everyone jokes about Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Wind Waker HD, etc. not saving it, those were all destined to be small beans games just by looking at past sales.

-2014 Lineup - DK didn't give a pop n Japan, but with the pile of Vita and 3DS games, The PS4 Launch, and the release of Final Fantasy XIII-3, I would imagine it was just buried in the minds of Japanese gamers. We will have to wait and see how the U.S. and Europe's sales are. I am in the camp that thinks Smash Bros will have a bigger impact then Mario Kart. Kart is great, and I am sure it will sell well, but Smash Bros is in greater demand right now. It's been 6 years since we have seen a new one, and that type of hiatus for a 10 million plus seller franchise could mean massive numbers. On top of that we are going to get X, which should help some with the hardcore gamers and Hyrule Warriors, which will no doubt be massive in Japan atleast. On top of that we should be seeing Bayonetta 2 and Yoshi's Yarn, both of which are solid B level titles.

-Price....It's too expensive for a Nintendo console. $299 with a $50 price cut already is still more then the Wii was at launch. Every time stores have price drops to $250 they sell much better. (Example: Store on ebay this past week had the NSMBU bundles for $270, sold 1100 in 2 hours.) It's true that games are not coming out fast enough, but at the same time your average person isn't buying 1 game a week anyways. Personally I buy 1 big title a month (if there is one), and then a will usually download a couple cheapie games from Xbox Live or the Eshop.

I have no doubt the Wii U could still be a very solid success in the 60+ million range, or could end up being a massive failure in the low 20 million range. It's all going to depend on whether or not Nintendo makes the right moves. As of right now they haven't but things can change quickly like they often do.

Comes down to your perception of 'saved'

I think if Mario Kart and SSB do well, 25mil lifetime is still very much possible.

If by save you mean outsell Gamecube, maybe. And I think Smash will move more units than Mario Kart.

You mean the same game thats also on the 3ds?

It will take more than games. Every console has games. Every console has exclusives. The Wii U isn't the only console to get Nintendo franchises on. What it needs is something unique. A must have killer app that revolutionizes things. Take that rumored Mario Kart 8 track editor. Imagine, if you will, that this track editor was not only real, but was as in depth as say, Little Big Planet Karting, but Mario themed, and allowed you to post the tracks online for anyone to rate and play. THAT would save the Wii U. But it probably won't happen like that. Of course, that's not the only way Nintendo could save the Wii U. There are other possibilities for killer apps. What the Wii U has going for it, unlike the Vita, is that Nintendo HAS to support it. They can't give up. They'll do something. They might not do enough to make it more successful than the Gamecube, but if there's one thing we can count on Nintendo to do when they're backed into a corner, it's that they'll try their damnedest to pull out all the stops and bring something new.

 "Save"? No, the Wii U and Nintendo have dug too deep of a hole for it to be saved.

Keep it's head above water? Yes, I think MK8 and SSB4 will help the GameCube Wii U do better and end up not selling below 20 Million.

I never understood the notion that these games would help make for another 3DS-like turnaround for Nintendo.
They'll both end up being amazing, but without the help of 3rd parties I don't see the current situation changing much the coming years