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vivster said:

I wanted to make a snide remark about how video games are dangerous to kids but this is just too awful.

The officer probably didn't want to shoot a kid either. Tragic stuff.


well then thinking before shooting helps alot.

I mean a Wiimote looks less like a gun than a toy gun does  and kids used toy guns for decades......  by now officers should know that someone opening a door holding something in his/her hands is not always going to kill them. Besides noone forces cops to wait for  the door to open while staying exactly in the center of the entrance  so they get shot easily...

If the kid was holding the Wiimote like other people hold their beer while opening the door (i doubt he was pointing the wiimote to the officers face)  wearing a west would have saved the officer even if the kid was going to shot the officer.

Its just an officer acting dumb. Also as far as I know holding a gun on ones own property is not illegal in any way I mean what if the person way someone cleaning his guns etc? Sure opening a door with a gun is not really smart but its legal. (correct me if I am wrong)



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DakonBlackblade said:

Wasnt the oficer a bit to quick to action ? Rings doorbell dude answers with a WIImote shoot him sqaure in the chest, what happened with the "put your hands up and drop the weapon" part ?

She was probably on high alarm coming to a house of a man who violated his probation. When you see someone opening the door with a gun in his hands you don't have the time to say hands up before you are dead. I guess she didn't aim at the chest either.

To her it looked like a life threatening situation. The situation could've also ended in "Officer shot at doorstep".

I really don't want to defend the officer but it obviously was an accident, the reasons for which don't lie in the situation but the US's gun culture. I don't think in any other country in the world would a suspect opening a door with a gun in his hands be so likely as in the US.



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JazzB1987 said:
vivster said:

I wanted to make a snide remark about how video games are dangerous to kids but this is just too awful.

The officer probably didn't want to shoot a kid either. Tragic stuff.


well then thinking before shooting helps alot.

I mean a Wiimote looks less like a gun than a toy gun does  and kids used toy guns for decades......  by now officers should know that someone opening a door holding something in his/her hands is not always going to kill them. Besides noone forces cops to wait for  the door to open while staying exactly in the center of the entrance  so they get shot easily...

If the kid was holding the Wiimote like other people hold their beer while opening the door (i doubt he was pointing the wiimote to the officers face)  wearing a west would have saved the officer even if the kid was going to shot the officer.

Its just an officer acting dumb. Also as far as I know holding a gun on ones own property is not illegal in any way I mean what if the person way someone cleaning his guns etc? Sure opening a door with a gun is not really smart but its legal. (correct me if I am wrong)

See my post above.

When it is a life or death situation you don't have time to think. If you walk through a bad neighborhood and someone comes around the corner with something that at the first glance looks like a gun, what do you do? Get out of the way or slowly examine the object?



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She probably thought it was a dildo. Safety first!



vivster said:
JazzB1987 said:
vivster said:

I wanted to make a snide remark about how video games are dangerous to kids but this is just too awful.

The officer probably didn't want to shoot a kid either. Tragic stuff.


well then thinking before shooting helps alot.

I mean a Wiimote looks less like a gun than a toy gun does  and kids used toy guns for decades......  by now officers should know that someone opening a door holding something in his/her hands is not always going to kill them. Besides noone forces cops to wait for  the door to open while staying exactly in the center of the entrance  so they get shot easily...

If the kid was holding the Wiimote like other people hold their beer while opening the door (i doubt he was pointing the wiimote to the officers face)  wearing a west would have saved the officer even if the kid was going to shot the officer.

Its just an officer acting dumb. Also as far as I know holding a gun on ones own property is not illegal in any way I mean what if the person way someone cleaning his guns etc? Sure opening a door with a gun is not really smart but its legal. (correct me if I am wrong)

See my post above.

When it is a life or death situation you don't have time to think. If you walk through a bad neighborhood and someone comes around the corner with something that at the first glance looks like a gun, what do you do? Get out of the way or slowly examine the object?


Shoot the arm or leg not the face or chest. Or have a taser ready instead of a gun.  Or as you said take cover.
I mean I know what you are saying I once dropped a knife and automatically tried to catch it and cut my hand but I was 15 back then and that never happened again. You can train to not be a "slave" to your automated behavior and you can also do everything you can so that you will never end up in a situation where you need to fight this behavior.

Dont stay in the center of the entrance
Dont have a gun ready but a taser or use rubber bullets or pepper spray
Wear a west  etc.
 look at peoples hands when they open a door.

All of this was up to the officer and everything could have prevented a kid from being murdered.



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typical american story
if not every fucking nut job would have a gun at home i'm sure officers would ease up alittle and wouldn't shoot everything that moves



Am I a terrible person for this picture being the first thing to come to mind after reading the story?



JazzB1987 said:
vivster said:
JazzB1987 said:
vivster said:

I wanted to make a snide remark about how video games are dangerous to kids but this is just too awful.

The officer probably didn't want to shoot a kid either. Tragic stuff.


well then thinking before shooting helps alot.

I mean a Wiimote looks less like a gun than a toy gun does  and kids used toy guns for decades......  by now officers should know that someone opening a door holding something in his/her hands is not always going to kill them. Besides noone forces cops to wait for  the door to open while staying exactly in the center of the entrance  so they get shot easily...

If the kid was holding the Wiimote like other people hold their beer while opening the door (i doubt he was pointing the wiimote to the officers face)  wearing a west would have saved the officer even if the kid was going to shot the officer.

Its just an officer acting dumb. Also as far as I know holding a gun on ones own property is not illegal in any way I mean what if the person way someone cleaning his guns etc? Sure opening a door with a gun is not really smart but its legal. (correct me if I am wrong)

See my post above.

When it is a life or death situation you don't have time to think. If you walk through a bad neighborhood and someone comes around the corner with something that at the first glance looks like a gun, what do you do? Get out of the way or slowly examine the object?


Shoot the arm or leg not the face or chest. Or have a taser ready instead of a gun.  Or as you said take cover.
I mean I know what you are saying I once dropped a knife and automatically tried to catch it and cut my hand but I was 15 back then and that never happened again. You can train to not be a "slave" to your automated behavior and you can also do everything you can so that you will never end up in a situation where you need to fight this behavior.

Dont stay in the center of the entrance
Dont have a gun ready but a taser or use rubber bullets to take down a person.
Wear a west  etc.
Autoamtically look at peoples hands when they open a door.

All of this was up to the officer and everything could have prevented a kid from being murdered.

I think you can chalk this up to the apparently lax police education and missing screening process.

Not to generalize everything but I've seen so many american officers bahaving out of line. A grab to the gun is probably the first reaction for a lot of them. I'm from Germany and here such a thing would be absolutely impossible. Not because our policemen are so much more competent but the circumstances would never occur. An officer shooting a gun here would almost always be punished by law and media no matter what the situation. Also we have very strict gun laws and a kid having a gun is exactly as rare as a kid having a rocket launcher.

It wasn't murder but an accident in this case and we can just hope that this will state an example for future officer's behavior.



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Lafiel said:

I wonder if it was a black remote, as I can't imagine somebody would mistake a white one for a weapon even for a fraction of a second, although there probably are some white guns out there.

The resemblance is uncanny.



I was a cop and we took a course on "judgmental pistol shooting". All sorts of scenarios were presented and you only had a split second to decide if you were going to shoot or die. It was all done via simulation. So many times, I died because I chose not to shoot when I should have and so many times I shot when I probably shouldn't have. It's easy to play Monday morning quarterback and say what she should have done but from experience, it's a tough spot to be in. My heart goes out to the victim and the officer. Gonna be hard to live with that one.