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Forums - Sales Discussion - WiiU down YOY in every region, weekly sales are off

drake4 on 14 February 2014
Kresnik said:
We need to invest in a collective VGC fund to subscribe to NPD ourselves just so everyone can be satisfied these figures are official, huh? Would stop a hell of a lot of "debate" at this point.

I've been more than happy to rely on Creamsugar's leaks since I started posting here; and judging by adjustments, ioi is happy to rely on them too (or if not CS's leaks, then his own subscription to NPD, which often falls in line with exactly what CS leaks, hmm...)

Anyway, yeah, this was my thought too. Not a fantastic time for WiiU at the moment. While the USA drop on its own isn't massively worrying, being down so much in Japan and having never taken off in Europe, the last bastion of the 'states being down isn't so great in that context.


the only people that are debating the NPD numebers from creamsuger, are desperate fans that don't like the numbers cause it makes there console look bad.



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Carl on 14 February 2014
mii-gamer said:

But the consistant pestering of the other side is becoming somewhat annoying and has ruined the spirit of the community, a perfect example would be this thread.


Eh, I dont think thats fair to say. You have to remember we are on a sales forum at heart, and this is a thread in the sales section, not the Nintendo section.

When in a sales dicussion, things will generally be negative for the Wii U. Its not pestering, its general discussion.



                            

Mummelmann on 14 February 2014

This same debate will rage in February 2015, I'm quite sure, even if the circumstances will be quite similar.



Aerys on 14 February 2014

It seems Vita was finally ahead the whole time in January



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Zero999 on 14 February 2014
Carl2291 said:
Makes you wonder where the baseline will be for Wii U sales after the Donkey Kong bump wares off.

Its gonna be a long, long drought for Wii U games between DK and MK. Nintendo are in trouble. Gonna be a bloodbath in Europe especially.

It's not like the others are fine either. people conveniently forget the others only have thief untill the end of march, where they will get titanfall/ infamous. then there's a drought untill watch dogs releases, wich could even be in june. and after that, the next big release is in september, destiny.



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Nirvana_Nut85 on 14 February 2014

Not making a fanboy comment, just asking a question. I read somewhere that NPD does not track the actual physical sales for Wal-Mart and Toys R Us. Considering those two stores would be the most likely place where people are purchasing Nintendo related products, would it not be plausible that there sales are inaccurate? Also how accurate exactly is their estimating overall? I'm not just stating this about Nintendo but even the Xbone and PS4 seem quite a bit little low.



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Carl on 14 February 2014
Zero999 said:

It's not like the others are fine either. people conveniently forget the others only have thief untill the end of march, where they will get titanfall/ infamous. then there's a drought untill watch dogs releases, wich could even be in june. and after that, the next big release is in september, destiny.


Im not so sure its that simple. Not just because youre ignoring a number of games, but also because PS4/One are still in the baby steps. I think PS4 will continue to sell based on hype alone way into April at least. Its had one "meaningful" release since launch, with Tomb Raider, and its still sold out.

Big games are going to be few and far between for the new systems until the holidays because the userbases on each console arent exactly capable of carrying a huge seller at this stage and in the summer Months. What we are naturally going to get is filler titles, to keep interest at a stable level until things ramp up for the Holidays. This happens with near enough every console launch, but  these filler titles will be releasing and the droughts arent as bad as you make them out to be.

Rayman
Thief
Infamous
Titanfall
Kinect Sports
Plants vs Zombies Garden Warfare
FFXIV
MGS Ground Zeroes
MLB The Show
TES Online
Driveclub
Watch Dogs
The Amazing Spiderman 2
Dynasty Warriors 8

Thats off the top of my head. I may be wrong on some, and I may have missed some. List has games for both PS4 and Xbox One.

Again, these baby steps rarely if ever have the huge system selling titles. They have filler titles that are simply there to keep the console somewhat in the eye of the mainstream. Keep advertising flowing with fresh titles, even if a fair few of them are trash. These consoles still have the "new" persona, whereas the Wii U is now an established console thats experiencing long droughts, while the competition are breaking records left and right. Totally different situations.



                            

Max King of the Wild on 14 February 2014
DevilRising said:
Seece said:
DolPhanTendo said:
NPD I just looked into NPD and its basically surveyed based site. So those numbers are predictions not sales. Why would VGchartz be off by twice as much

Oh my word. No it isn't ... NPD has been around for years and is what the industry uses.

Is this what it has come to, after decades, because WiiU isn't doing well people are trying to discredit NPD now? Embarrasing.

And VGC is off by twice as much because it uses very limited data and is estimates.


That's funny, because according to Nintendo's own sales figures announcements, Wii U was actually undertracked. But hey.


According to Nintendos shipments its been heavily overtracked.... or do you think 400k is ample supply for every store world wide with numerous bundles?



Max King of the Wild on 14 February 2014
Zero999 said:
Carl2291 said:
Makes you wonder where the baseline will be for Wii U sales after the Donkey Kong bump wares off.

Its gonna be a long, long drought for Wii U games between DK and MK. Nintendo are in trouble. Gonna be a bloodbath in Europe especially.

It's not like the others are fine either. people conveniently forget the others only have thief untill the end of march, where they will get titanfall/ infamous. then there's a drought untill watch dogs releases, wich could even be in june. and after that, the next big release is in september, destiny.


May = MLB The Show and Drive Club should be coming out around then too. Not only that but you act like PS4 hasnt gotten a game yet this year when it has.



Zero999 on 14 February 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Zero999 said:
Carl2291 said:
Makes you wonder where the baseline will be for Wii U sales after the Donkey Kong bump wares off.

Its gonna be a long, long drought for Wii U games between DK and MK. Nintendo are in trouble. Gonna be a bloodbath in Europe especially.

It's not like the others are fine either. people conveniently forget the others only have thief untill the end of march, where they will get titanfall/ infamous. then there's a drought untill watch dogs releases, wich could even be in june. and after that, the next big release is in september, destiny.


May = MLB The Show and Drive Club should be coming out around then too. Not only that but you act like PS4 hasnt gotten a game yet this year when it has.

an old game.