By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Pachter Predicts 3 Million Global 2014 Sales for Wii U

se7en7thre3 on 12 February 2014

The Wii U should hit 5 mil at least.



Around the Network
sundin13 on 12 February 2014

I predict 4-6million on the year...

also, Pach is a moron :D



supernihilist on 12 February 2014

4.5M would be good at this point



chapset on 12 February 2014
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
VitroBahllee said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

Donkey Kong has also pretty much never sold less than 5 million...

Well, it's about to.

On the WiiU? Nah.Donkey Konga came out on the gamecube and even that didnt burn lol
1 Donkey Kong Country SNES 1994 Platform Nintendo 4.36 1.71 3.00 0.23 9.30
2 Donkey Kong Country Returns Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 3.02 1.62 1.03 0.43 6.10
3 Donkey Kong 64 N64 1999 Platform Nintendo 3.33 0.79 1.09 0.06 5.27
4 Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest SNES 1995 Platform Nintendo 2.10 0.74 2.20 0.11 5.15
5 Donkey Kong Land GB 1994 Platform Nintendo 1.97 0.76 1.07 0.11 3.91
6 Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! SNES 1996 Platform Nintendo 1.17 0.50 1.75 0.08 3.51
7 Donkey Kong GB 1994 Platform Nintendo 1.57 0.62 0.55 0.34 3.07
8 Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! DS 2010 Puzzle Nintendo 1.61 0.49 0.35 0.18 2.63
9 Donkey Kong Land 2 GB 1996 Platform Nintendo 1.39 0.48 0.40 0.08 2.35
10 Donkey Kong Country GB 2000 Platform Nintendo 1.04 0.72 0.30 0.13 2.19
11 Donkey Kong Country GBA 2003 Platform Nintendo 1.20 0.48 0.29 0.07 2.04
12 Donkey Kong Classics NES 1988 Platform Nintendo 0.59 0.14 0.81 0.02 1.56
13 Donkey Kong 2600 1981 Platform Coleco 1.36 0.08 0.00 0.02 1.46
14 Donkey Kong Jungle Beat GC 2004 Platform Nintendo 0.84 0.22 0.24 0.04 1.34
15 Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DS 2013 Platform Nintendo 0.48 0.35 0.32 0.08 1.24
16 Donkey Kong Country 2 GBA 2004 Platform Nintendo 0.79 0.27 0.12 0.04 1.23
17 Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis DS 2006 Puzzle Nintendo 0.72 0.02 0.36 0.07 1.17
18 Mario vs. Donkey Kong GBA 2004 Puzzle Nintendo 0.68 0.25 0.21 0.02 1.17
19 Donkey Konga GC 2003 Misc Nintendo 0.50 0.16 0.46 0.03 1.15

* the list is not complete

and only 4 of them sold more than 5million



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

bucky1965 on 12 February 2014
superhippy420 said:
bucky1965 said:
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it's 3 mil. All of the major retailers in my area, Walmart, Future Shop, E.B. Games, all have significantly reduced the WiiU's shelf space recently.. What used to be prominent, looks like it's dying a slow death in the stores around here.


They have but they won't abandon it, not with the lineup that Nintendo has on the way.  Games like Mario Kart have been consistant sellers for the retailers for years on end, while most of the other games they have to price drop very quickly just to get rid of them.   Even though the Wii U is struggling, retailers especially in the U.S. won't dump it.  In 2013 alone Nintendo  consoles had 29 games in the top 100 and 7 in the top 20.  Dumping the Wii U now when you know that Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros are coming is just flushing money down the toilet.  If those don't sell great then I could see them abandoning it, but until then it would just be a bad business move.

Big box stores base their shelf space on sales. And that could have a cascading effect. The new consoles in the mix fighting for shelf space also. Walk into a store in my area, looks like WiiU disappeared. Even the software's been condensed down in display cases. For you and me that's fine, we know about the WiiU. But the average consumer? Heck, to me it looks the stores are dumping it. Don't think Nintendo's abandoning it though. I do think the ever decreasing shelf space will effect its sales.



Around the Network
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 12 February 2014
chapset said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
VitroBahllee said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:

Donkey Kong has also pretty much never sold less than 5 million...

Well, it's about to.

On the WiiU? Nah.Donkey Konga came out on the gamecube and even that didnt burn lol
1 Donkey Kong Country SNES 1994 Platform Nintendo 4.36 1.71 3.00 0.23 9.30
2 Donkey Kong Country Returns Wii 2010 Platform Nintendo 3.02 1.62 1.03 0.43 6.10
3 Donkey Kong 64 N64 1999 Platform Nintendo 3.33 0.79 1.09 0.06 5.27
4 Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest SNES 1995 Platform Nintendo 2.10 0.74 2.20 0.11 5.15
5 Donkey Kong Land GB 1994 Platform Nintendo 1.97 0.76 1.07 0.11 3.91
6 Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! SNES 1996 Platform Nintendo 1.17 0.50 1.75 0.08 3.51
7 Donkey Kong GB 1994 Platform Nintendo 1.57 0.62 0.55 0.34 3.07
8 Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! DS 2010 Puzzle Nintendo 1.61 0.49 0.35 0.18 2.63
9 Donkey Kong Land 2 GB 1996 Platform Nintendo 1.39 0.48 0.40 0.08 2.35
10 Donkey Kong Country GB 2000 Platform Nintendo 1.04 0.72 0.30 0.13 2.19
11 Donkey Kong Country GBA 2003 Platform Nintendo 1.20 0.48 0.29 0.07 2.04
12 Donkey Kong Classics NES 1988 Platform Nintendo 0.59 0.14 0.81 0.02 1.56
13 Donkey Kong 2600 1981 Platform Coleco 1.36 0.08 0.00 0.02 1.46
14 Donkey Kong Jungle Beat GC 2004 Platform Nintendo 0.84 0.22 0.24 0.04 1.34
15 Donkey Kong Country Returns 3DS 2013 Platform Nintendo 0.48 0.35 0.32 0.08 1.24
16 Donkey Kong Country 2 GBA 2004 Platform Nintendo 0.79 0.27 0.12 0.04 1.23
17 Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis DS 2006 Puzzle Nintendo 0.72 0.02 0.36 0.07 1.17
18 Mario vs. Donkey Kong GBA 2004 Puzzle Nintendo 0.68 0.25 0.21 0.02 1.17
19 Donkey Konga GC 2003 Misc Nintendo 0.50 0.16 0.46 0.03 1.15

* the list is not complete

and only 4 of them sold more than 5million


Mainline games bro. Mainline not spin offs



DevilRising on 12 February 2014

Just with MK (and a MK bundle), and Smash Bros. alone, the Wii U should be able to sell more than 3 million in 2014. Let alone the other games coming out, including ones not yet announced.

Sales were down in 2013 because of an extreme lack of games until late in the year. That is not the case in 2014, so selling closer to 5 million in a year certainly isn't a stretch.



MTZehvor on 12 February 2014
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
MTZehvor said:
Soundwave said:
MTZehvor said:
VitroBahllee said:

I was reading this over at GoNintendo, and I had to laugh at the comments. All but one person thinks it will sell way more than that. The lone calm voice pointed out 'I dunno... to hit 3 million, it would have to sell 250k a month, something it to date has not done.'

Other people are saying 'I bet it'll sell SEVEN million.'

Now, I own a Wii U, and have since launch. But I seriously doubt it will sell 250k a month. I think there's a chance that in the month Mario Kart is released (May) and whenever Smash launches, there will be sales spikes. But I do not think they will be prolonged. I think more people will get Smash on 3DS than Wii U (duh) and I think it will really cut into the sales people are expecting to see.

Nintendo has put out Wii Sports sequels, Wii Fit iterations, 2D Mario, Zelda remaster, 3D Mario, and had no gigantic bump. All it has left are Kart, Smash, and full, new Zelda in its batch of system sellers. I expect some results from the launch of these, but not many.

It's selling close to 50K a week now, so that's a little over 200K a month at its current pace. If it sells that way for 11 months, that'd put it at 2.2 million, and then there's the assured sales boost from the holiday, which will probably be more than 200K a week (at least, if this year's holiday sales are anything to go by).

And none of this takes into account boosts from DKC, Mario Kart, or Smash. I do take some issue with the "no significant boost" claim, the Wii U's weekly sales were three times higher the week Pikmin 3 released in the US than they were the week before (I'd have to go check for 3D World). It's not a major boost, but it is enough of one to give the Wii U a couple of 250 K a month sales.

And both Kart and Smash are Nintendo's biggest sellers. 3 Million seems VERY conservative to me.

Mario Kart is but Smash Bros? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Smash wasn't even one of the top 5 Wii sellers. 

Smash on Wii sold about the same as Mario Galaxy (slightly less actually I think). 

GameCube is the only place where Smash outsold Mario 3D, and I think that's in large part due to Mario Sunshine being a Mario game that a lot of people didn't ask for. 

Actually, Brawl outsolid Mario Galaxy by about a million units or so.

You're correct in that Smash Bros. wasn't in the Wii's Top 5, but a good portion of that has to do with Brawl not having a console bundle. Every other title before it (Wii Sports, Mario Kart, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit, and Wii Fit Plus, all had some sort of console bundle).

I'm not arguing that Smash is going to give the Wii U a console saving boost, but saying that Smash Bros isn't one of Nintendo's biggest sellers is just silly. It's never had any title sell under 5 million units, and averaged closer to 8 million per title, despite two out of its three installments being on the NG4 and Gamecube (two of Nintendo's worse selling consoles).

Donkey Kong has also pretty much never sold less than 5 million...

Well...that's not entirely true...Donkey Kong Country 3 and Donkey Kong Land 1&2 both sold significantly under 5 million. DKC3 actually just barely made it over 3.5 million.

But, yes, Tropical Freeze will probably be a significant boost as well. The 3 million claim for the Wii U is silly. It sold over that numer in 2013 (3.2 million I believe), and it's got a lineup of games that sell significantly better than the first party lineup it had in both 2013 and 2012 combined (Mario Kart > 2D Mario, Smash Bros > 3D Mario, Donkey Kong > Pikmin), and the third party support can't get much worse. If it could manage over 3 million last year, it'll easily get past that this year.



zorg1000 on 12 February 2014
VitroBahllee said:
I don't see it selling 5 million in 2014. most of Nintendo's big franchises are out on it

Most of Nintendo's big franchises are not on Wii U yet, basically just 2D Mario & 3D Mario.

The Wii Series are not big hitters. They are the Wii U equivelant of Brain Training/Nintendogs, games that sold very well in the 7th gen due to high interest from casual crowd and have huge drops this gen since that crowd has moved on to Smartphones/Tablets. These types of games have not been able to show any type of consistancy from one gen to the next so I dont think the can be considered big hitters.

Pikmin is a very niche franchise, its far from a big hitter but is a solid support title. Wind Waker HD is not a big hitter, its an updated port of a 10 year old game, again this is just a solid support title. Nintendo Land is a new series so there is no way of knowing if its a big hitter or not, most likely its a game that can sell 1-2 million without bundles so once again a solid support title.

In terms of big Nintendo franchises on Wii U, there is 2D/3D Mario and a few solid support titles. There is still Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, Smash Bros and an original Zelda to be released which are all series that have have sold over 5 million on numerous occasions and on multiple consoles. There are also still a ton of smaller support titles from Nintendo that could be released on Wii U, Paper Mario, Mario Party, Mario Sports, Metroid, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Star Fox, F-Zero, Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Pokemon spinoffs, Punch-Out, Kid Icarus and others im probably missing.

The point is Nintendo still have a ton of games to release on Wii U in the next 2-3 years and 5 million is not out of the realm of possibility this year.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 12 February 2014
MTZehvor said:
Dr.EisDrachenJaeger said:
MTZehvor said:
Soundwave said:
MTZehvor said:
VitroBahllee said:

I was reading this over at GoNintendo, and I had to laugh at the comments. All but one person thinks it will sell way more than that. The lone calm voice pointed out 'I dunno... to hit 3 million, it would have to sell 250k a month, something it to date has not done.'

Other people are saying 'I bet it'll sell SEVEN million.'

Now, I own a Wii U, and have since launch. But I seriously doubt it will sell 250k a month. I think there's a chance that in the month Mario Kart is released (May) and whenever Smash launches, there will be sales spikes. But I do not think they will be prolonged. I think more people will get Smash on 3DS than Wii U (duh) and I think it will really cut into the sales people are expecting to see.

Nintendo has put out Wii Sports sequels, Wii Fit iterations, 2D Mario, Zelda remaster, 3D Mario, and had no gigantic bump. All it has left are Kart, Smash, and full, new Zelda in its batch of system sellers. I expect some results from the launch of these, but not many.

It's selling close to 50K a week now, so that's a little over 200K a month at its current pace. If it sells that way for 11 months, that'd put it at 2.2 million, and then there's the assured sales boost from the holiday, which will probably be more than 200K a week (at least, if this year's holiday sales are anything to go by).

And none of this takes into account boosts from DKC, Mario Kart, or Smash. I do take some issue with the "no significant boost" claim, the Wii U's weekly sales were three times higher the week Pikmin 3 released in the US than they were the week before (I'd have to go check for 3D World). It's not a major boost, but it is enough of one to give the Wii U a couple of 250 K a month sales.

And both Kart and Smash are Nintendo's biggest sellers. 3 Million seems VERY conservative to me.

Mario Kart is but Smash Bros? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Smash wasn't even one of the top 5 Wii sellers. 

Smash on Wii sold about the same as Mario Galaxy (slightly less actually I think). 

GameCube is the only place where Smash outsold Mario 3D, and I think that's in large part due to Mario Sunshine being a Mario game that a lot of people didn't ask for. 

Actually, Brawl outsolid Mario Galaxy by about a million units or so.

You're correct in that Smash Bros. wasn't in the Wii's Top 5, but a good portion of that has to do with Brawl not having a console bundle. Every other title before it (Wii Sports, Mario Kart, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit, and Wii Fit Plus, all had some sort of console bundle).

I'm not arguing that Smash is going to give the Wii U a console saving boost, but saying that Smash Bros isn't one of Nintendo's biggest sellers is just silly. It's never had any title sell under 5 million units, and averaged closer to 8 million per title, despite two out of its three installments being on the NG4 and Gamecube (two of Nintendo's worse selling consoles).

Donkey Kong has also pretty much never sold less than 5 million...

Well...that's not entirely true...Donkey Kong Country 3 and Donkey Kong Land 1&2 both sold significantly under 5 million. DKC3 actually just barely made it over 3.5 million.

But, yes, Tropical Freeze will probably be a significant boost as well. The 3 million claim for the Wii U is silly. It sold over that numer in 2013 (3.2 million I believe), and it's got a lineup of games that sell significantly better than the first party lineup it had in both 2013 and 2012 combined (Mario Kart > 2D Mario, Smash Bros > 3D Mario, Donkey Kong > Pikmin), and the third party support can't get much worse. If it could manage over 3 million last year, it'll easily get past that this year.


Going by fiscal year yes 3million but it actually sold 4 million in 2013