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Forums - Nintendo - Pachter Predicts 3 Million Global 2014 Sales for Wii U

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it's 3 mil. All of the major retailers in my area, Walmart, Future Shop, E.B. Games, all have significantly reduced the WiiU's shelf space recently.. What used to be prominent, looks like it's dying a slow death in the stores around here.



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Just wait people the wii u hasn't hit its peak yet (obviously) and once companies get the hardware down watch and see if games don't start rolling out the door. 1st party games will start releasing a lot faster too after they get mario kart and super smash brothers out of the way and learn how to make games on the system easier. i'm thinking about 6 million this year as long as X comes out this year. Were also forgetting about all the new IP remakes they have the power to bring back star fox, mario b-ball,golf,soccer etc. and a new mario party,metroid, F-zero, kirby,bomberman, cruis'n world,viewtiful joe plus steady fire emblem installments. This all added with New IP's and a stronger 3rd party support down the road and this system has a lot of potential still.



finalfantasystud said:
Just wait people the wii u hasn't hit its peak yet (obviously) and once companies get the hardware down watch and see if games don't start rolling out the door. 1st party games will start releasing a lot faster too after they get mario kart and super smash brothers out of the way and learn how to make games on the system easier. i'm thinking about 6 million this year as long as X comes out this year. Were also forgetting about all the new IP remakes they have the power to bring back star fox, mario b-ball,golf,soccer etc. and a new mario party,metroid, F-zero, kirby,bomberman, cruis'n world,viewtiful joe plus steady fire emblem installments. This all added with New IP's and a stronger 3rd party support down the road and this system has a lot of potential still.


Yeah... when Nintendo put out a new Bomberman and/or Viewtiful Joe, their sales slump will be over...

 

**Backs slowly out of room**



We will see. It did 3.2 million in 2013 on an awful lineup, not in terms of quality but in terms of mainstream appeal.

-Pikmin 3 - The best selling Pikmin ever did 1.6 million. It's a small beans franchise, always has been, always will be.

-Wonderful 101 - Modern Gamecube game. Games like this are why Gamers consider the Gamecube to be badass but also why it sold like crap. Just too quirky for the mainstream audience.

-Wind Waker HD - The original was the worst selling 1st release Zelda for any Nintendo console. Factor on top of that, that most remakes only do 30 percent or so of the originals at best, and it was only destined to sell 1.3 - 1.5 million lifetime.

-Wii Party U - Should have been Mario Party U. The original did big numbers because it came with a Wiimote. This one comes with a Wiimote, but everyone already has Wiimotes, it's just not a very big incentive anymore to but it.

-Game and Wario - Should have been Warioware U. Warioware on Wii actually did pretty good at 2.85 million. Releasing a crappy spinoff was destined to fail as well.

3rd Party releases - It got COD Ghosts, Splinter Cell, AC4, Just Dance, Rayman, Batman, Resident Evil, Scribblenaughts, and a bunch of kids games. Nearly all of those are games that you can buy on 360 or PS3. Why would you buy a new console for games that you can already buy on the other consoles, especially if the differences are minimal.

SM3DW - Only AAA title that appeals to a broad market that came out in 2013, but heres the catch. It wasn't a brand spanking new Mario like SMB, SMW, Mario64, Sunshine, or Galaxy. It's a great game no doubt which is why it sold nearly 2 million but it doesn't have a wow factor.

2014 has Donkey Kong which hasn't been overdone by any means and normally sells about 5 million. Mario Kart which exploded last gen on Wii and DS, but from looking at 3DS sales should realistically be about a 10 million seller. Smash Bros which saw a huge spike on Wii because people had to wait nearly 7 years to get it. It should easily be a 10 million seller even with the 3DS version out. We are talking about the best selling fighting game of all time here, not some B-level franchise. Xenoblade,Bayonetta,Hyrule Warriors should be coming out. Stack on top of that, that Nintendo no doubt will have atleast 3 - 4 Wii U games that we haven't even seen before coming out this year. Wii U could no doubt seriously see a massive spike in sales. The lineup just sucks right now. Take Pokemon, Mario Kart, Luigi's Mansion, and Animal Crossing off the 3DS, and it would only be in the 22 - 25 million range instead of the 43 million it is at now.



It was about 3.45 million in March 2013 so will have sold about 2.5 million extra approx by this March. That's despite Zelda windwaker, Mario 3D etc being launched. I think 3 million is likely this year without a price cut but I think a price cut is likely and a big mario kart bundle for Christmas. I personally think 4-6 million this year is possible under ideal conditions. However it is also possible the wii u will be removed from shop shelves due to lack of sales and with limited software releases I can see it still possible that wii u sells less than 3 million.

We can all guess the figure but the reality is Nintendo's decisions will dictate the figure and we can't predict what they are going to do. They have made some truly atrocious decisions recently and its possible this will continue. Here in the UK the wii u has sold abysmally. The PS4 passed wii u lifetime sales in the UK in just days. Many retailers have already abandoned the wii u and its likely more will follow. In this scenerio its hard to see how the wii u can match 2013 sales figures.



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I can't laugh. There's nothing out of reach with that prediction.



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bucky1965 said:
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if it's 3 mil. All of the major retailers in my area, Walmart, Future Shop, E.B. Games, all have significantly reduced the WiiU's shelf space recently.. What used to be prominent, looks like it's dying a slow death in the stores around here.


They have but they won't abandon it, not with the lineup that Nintendo has on the way.  Games like Mario Kart have been consistant sellers for the retailers for years on end, while most of the other games they have to price drop very quickly just to get rid of them.   Even though the Wii U is struggling, retailers especially in the U.S. won't dump it.  In 2013 alone Nintendo  consoles had 29 games in the top 100 and 7 in the top 20.  Dumping the Wii U now when you know that Donkey Kong, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros are coming is just flushing money down the toilet.  If those don't sell great then I could see them abandoning it, but until then it would just be a bad business move.



considering a 599/499 ps3 did over 4 million, and that was only for about 7 or 8 months..

if nintendo can barely hit 3 million with a 299 machine bundled with games.. that is a catastrophe



 

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Soundwave said:
MTZehvor said:
VitroBahllee said:

I was reading this over at GoNintendo, and I had to laugh at the comments. All but one person thinks it will sell way more than that. The lone calm voice pointed out 'I dunno... to hit 3 million, it would have to sell 250k a month, something it to date has not done.'

Other people are saying 'I bet it'll sell SEVEN million.'

Now, I own a Wii U, and have since launch. But I seriously doubt it will sell 250k a month. I think there's a chance that in the month Mario Kart is released (May) and whenever Smash launches, there will be sales spikes. But I do not think they will be prolonged. I think more people will get Smash on 3DS than Wii U (duh) and I think it will really cut into the sales people are expecting to see.

Nintendo has put out Wii Sports sequels, Wii Fit iterations, 2D Mario, Zelda remaster, 3D Mario, and had no gigantic bump. All it has left are Kart, Smash, and full, new Zelda in its batch of system sellers. I expect some results from the launch of these, but not many.

It's selling close to 50K a week now, so that's a little over 200K a month at its current pace. If it sells that way for 11 months, that'd put it at 2.2 million, and then there's the assured sales boost from the holiday, which will probably be more than 200K a week (at least, if this year's holiday sales are anything to go by).

And none of this takes into account boosts from DKC, Mario Kart, or Smash. I do take some issue with the "no significant boost" claim, the Wii U's weekly sales were three times higher the week Pikmin 3 released in the US than they were the week before (I'd have to go check for 3D World). It's not a major boost, but it is enough of one to give the Wii U a couple of 250 K a month sales.

And both Kart and Smash are Nintendo's biggest sellers. 3 Million seems VERY conservative to me.

Mario Kart is but Smash Bros? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Smash wasn't even one of the top 5 Wii sellers. 

Smash on Wii sold about the same as Mario Galaxy (slightly less actually I think). 

GameCube is the only place where Smash outsold Mario 3D, and I think that's in large part due to Mario Sunshine being a Mario game that a lot of people didn't ask for. 

Actually, Brawl outsolid Mario Galaxy by about a million units or so.

You're correct in that Smash Bros. wasn't in the Wii's Top 5, but a good portion of that has to do with Brawl not having a console bundle. Every other title before it (Wii Sports, Mario Kart, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit, and Wii Fit Plus, all had some sort of console bundle).

I'm not arguing that Smash is going to give the Wii U a console saving boost, but saying that Smash Bros isn't one of Nintendo's biggest sellers is just silly. It's never had any title sell under 5 million units, and averaged closer to 8 million per title, despite two out of its three installments being on the NG4 and Gamecube (two of Nintendo's worse selling consoles).



MTZehvor said:
Soundwave said:
MTZehvor said:
VitroBahllee said:

I was reading this over at GoNintendo, and I had to laugh at the comments. All but one person thinks it will sell way more than that. The lone calm voice pointed out 'I dunno... to hit 3 million, it would have to sell 250k a month, something it to date has not done.'

Other people are saying 'I bet it'll sell SEVEN million.'

Now, I own a Wii U, and have since launch. But I seriously doubt it will sell 250k a month. I think there's a chance that in the month Mario Kart is released (May) and whenever Smash launches, there will be sales spikes. But I do not think they will be prolonged. I think more people will get Smash on 3DS than Wii U (duh) and I think it will really cut into the sales people are expecting to see.

Nintendo has put out Wii Sports sequels, Wii Fit iterations, 2D Mario, Zelda remaster, 3D Mario, and had no gigantic bump. All it has left are Kart, Smash, and full, new Zelda in its batch of system sellers. I expect some results from the launch of these, but not many.

It's selling close to 50K a week now, so that's a little over 200K a month at its current pace. If it sells that way for 11 months, that'd put it at 2.2 million, and then there's the assured sales boost from the holiday, which will probably be more than 200K a week (at least, if this year's holiday sales are anything to go by).

And none of this takes into account boosts from DKC, Mario Kart, or Smash. I do take some issue with the "no significant boost" claim, the Wii U's weekly sales were three times higher the week Pikmin 3 released in the US than they were the week before (I'd have to go check for 3D World). It's not a major boost, but it is enough of one to give the Wii U a couple of 250 K a month sales.

And both Kart and Smash are Nintendo's biggest sellers. 3 Million seems VERY conservative to me.

Mario Kart is but Smash Bros? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Smash wasn't even one of the top 5 Wii sellers. 

Smash on Wii sold about the same as Mario Galaxy (slightly less actually I think). 

GameCube is the only place where Smash outsold Mario 3D, and I think that's in large part due to Mario Sunshine being a Mario game that a lot of people didn't ask for. 

Actually, Brawl outsolid Mario Galaxy by about a million units or so.

You're correct in that Smash Bros. wasn't in the Wii's Top 5, but a good portion of that has to do with Brawl not having a console bundle. Every other title before it (Wii Sports, Mario Kart, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, NSMB Wii, Wii Fit, and Wii Fit Plus, all had some sort of console bundle).

I'm not arguing that Smash is going to give the Wii U a console saving boost, but saying that Smash Bros isn't one of Nintendo's biggest sellers is just silly. It's never had any title sell under 5 million units, and averaged closer to 8 million per title, despite two out of its three installments being on the NG4 and Gamecube (two of Nintendo's worse selling consoles).

Donkey Kong has also pretty much never sold less than 5 million...