The black bars are rendered in game guys... the output is native 1080p with the GPI rendering the black bars... of course it is less intensive to render a mono color square than a 3D model but it is rendered... so technically the game is native 1080p.

Right now I'm more inclined to 4xMSAA... I like the black bars and the game is absolutely shaper with tho AA.

Most action movies have a 2.35:1 aspect ratio. And these bluray movies are still considered 1080p even though there are black bars. The Order is no different.

No upscaling occurs on a 1080p display with The Order. It is not like Ryse, which is upscaled from 900p to 1080p. So it is technically wrong to call The Order 800p.....

For every TLOU you have a Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, and Batman: Arkham Origins. I like multiplayer just fine when it serves a purpose.

ethomaz, the game looks really good but your comments smack of damage control.  You're trying too hard - stop with the 'black bars are rendered in-game so technically the game is native 1080p' bullshit.  It's pretty clear that the developer cut down the amount of image processing by making it 1920 x 800 because the GPU wasn't up to doing 1080p with 4MSAA (and no, I agree it's not 800p because it is still 1920x800).  I like the trade-off becuase I see aliasing even on 1080p too if AA isn't used.  The PS4 is a powerful console but given we are at such an early stage of the console's development it isn't yet the all singing, all dancing machine you want it to be.  

As Mark Cerny said, the full power of the machine will not be unleashed by developers for another couple of years.  1080p with 4MSAA will no doubt be the norm at that stage. Considering there is no multiplayer, 30fps is probably a good fit too (but again, will have been due to GPU limitations).

The shit RYSE got for being 900p/30fps was unwarranted.  Currently the best looking game on either console, in my opinion.  The Order 1886 may steal that crown.  It's time some of the shit stirrers acknowledge great looking (and playing) games without nit-picking just because they are exclusive and not on their console of choice.  

Yeah that's a good size TV.....My 42" doesn't show so much. 

Sorry... care to explain? Because I didn't make any damage controle in this thread... otherwise I was critic because PS4 can't hold 1080p with 4xMSAA.

I think you talking about other guys.

The game render 1080p... there is no upscale... no matter what you think or not.

ugh some of you people need to go and watch the videos they made about cinematic selections they have made. why they chose this aspect ration, and what they are trying to achieve.

Seems a lot of people won't be satisfied until it renders in 1920x1080 and downscales it to 1920x800 to get the correct aspect ratio, which wouldn't look as good as using a 1:1 pixel ratio.

You don't just add black bars to fix performance issues, aspect ratio affects how most of the game is build. Same way you can't simply add black bars to make a 4:3 show, 16:9. The composition is then ruined. A correctly done 2.4:1 aspect ratio has a higher load on the rendering engine as more geometry is in view due to the wider field of view.

To repeat my example again, which image has a higher load on the rendering engine:




You save 26% of pixels that have to be rendered, but you end up rendering 35% more geometry. Rendering less pixels definitely helps, but if you've tinkered around with fov on pc games you probably know that increasing the fov can have a substantial hit on performance.

Question : Black bars are added by the TV or are already in the game ? ( to know whether it's 1080p technically )